<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: async i/o and threads (was: Re: lurker emerges --> <!--X-From-R13: "Xnzrf Ivyfba" <wjvyfbaNebpurfgre.ee.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 21:20:23 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 001201bdc4de$58890340$961e5d18#default,rochester.rr.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: async i/o and threads (was: Re: lurker emerges</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00650.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00652.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01081.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00655.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00651">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00651">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00651">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: async i/o and threads (was: Re: lurker emerges</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: async i/o and threads (was: Re: lurker emerges</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "James Wilson" <<A HREF="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com">jwilson#rochester,rr.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 00:13:05 -0400</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> -----Original Message----- From: Jon A. Lambert <jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com> To: mud-dev#kanga,nu <mud-dev#kanga,nu> Date: Monday, August 10, 1998 11:56 PM Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: async i/o and threads (was: Re: lurker emerges > What is the mingw32 system? MINimal GNU Win32. It's a cutdown of the whole GnuWin32 package, which is hefty and bloated and evil, but to my mind far preferable to borland, msvc++, etc. I spit on their crappy IDEs, ptui! mingw32: <url <A HREF="http://agnes.dida.physik.uni-essen.de/~janjaap/mingw32/index.html">http://agnes.dida.physik.uni-essen.de/~janjaap/mingw32/index.html</A>> gnuwin32: <url <A HREF="http://www.cygnus.com/misc/gnu-win32/">http://www.cygnus.com/misc/gnu-win32/</A>> > > I'm a bit concerned about the overhead of using a thread pool, though, since > > my two > > target platforms (win32 and linux) use heavyweight threads. Has anyone tried > > a bytecode vm that implements user-level threads, setting up a scheduler > > that timeslices between 'processes', switches context on blocking i/o, and > > so on? Maybe this could give you lightweight, portable threading while > > keeping the whole process in a single thread? I'm imagining something where > > the main thread is either chomping bytecode or checking for io-ready > > sockets. > > Aye . I believe MUQ does exactly this. Many of the programable > servers impose execution limits on internal tasks (i.e. Cold, LP) hmmm... this sounds promising. I'll poke around and see what I can find. can anyone comment on the pros and cons of such an approach? man, this Outlook Express mailer is junk. look how ragged my linebreaks are. *blush* once I get mail working with linux, I'm switching to pine or something... James </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00655" HREF="msg00655.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: async i/o and threads (was: Re: lurker emerges</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> "Jon A. 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Thornton <a href="mailto:adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU">adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU</a>, Wed 12 Aug 1998, 23:09 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00790" HREF="msg00790.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: clients anyone?...</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Thu 20 Aug 1998, 18:25 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="01064" HREF="msg01064.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: clients anyone?...</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 18 Sep 1998, 20:51 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01081" HREF="msg01081.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: clients anyone?...</A></strong>, Andrew Wilson <a href="mailto:andrew#aaaaaaaa,demon.co.uk">andrew#aaaaaaaa,demon.co.uk</a>, Sun 20 Sep 1998, 00:58 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00651" HREF="msg00651.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: async i/o and threads (was: Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>, James Wilson <a href="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com">jwilson#rochester,rr.com</a>, Tue 11 Aug 1998, 04:20 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00655" HREF="msg00655.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: async i/o and threads (was: Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 11 Aug 1998, 06:58 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00646" HREF="msg00646.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: async i/o and threads (was: Re: lurker emerges)</A></strong>, James Wilson <a href="mailto:jwilson#rochester,rr.com">jwilson#rochester,rr.com</a>, Tue 11 Aug 1998, 02:44 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00650" HREF="msg00650.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: async i/o and threads (was: Re: lurker emerges</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 11 Aug 1998, 03:56 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00639" HREF="msg00639.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: List combat character and racial memory (was Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...))</A></strong>, kamikaze <a href="mailto:kamikaze#kuoi,asui.uidaho.edu">kamikaze#kuoi,asui.uidaho.edu</a>, Mon 10 Aug 1998, 20:50 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>