<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :) --> <!--X-From-R13: Qnyvona Fverfvnf Rnexybpx <pnyvonaNqnexybpx.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:07:35 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199809030607.AAA27258#darklock,com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.LNX.3.96.980902213319.15863A-100000#shamen,cyberhighway.net --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00922.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00924.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00946.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00929.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00923">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00923">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00923">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Caliban Tiresias Darklock <<A HREF="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 23:05:38 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On 09:41 PM 9/2/98 -0700, I personally witnessed Ben Greear jumping up to say: > >So, who here is considering writing a server that talks (only) >with a graphical client. And not just a web browser. I'm talking >fully 3-d rendering with all the assembly (or whatever) that goes >with it. You mean like Quake? <GDR> I have some fundamental problems with the idea of this, namely that in order to create a client and server that do this effectively, you have to make some pretty severe tradeoffs in functionality. But that's a big hairy religious issue, so I'll just leave it at saying "I don't think a graphical client would appropriately or effectively support what I want to do." And yes, a lot of people are discussing this sort of thing. I don't know how seriously they're considering it, but I've often thought that it might be very cool indeed to do something with an interface very much like Dungeon Keeper -- you look at the world in a sort of 3D isomorphic view most of the time, for perspective, but you can jump down into first-person mode and get that full rendering effect. (Of course, DK's rendering is a lot more like Doom than Quake... and honestly, the build interface is more or less like Wolf3D.) It might be really cool to do a graphical/text client. Something where you can have a text mode interface *and* a graphical interface. I'd like that a lot. I'd be really impressed by it. I'd jump from mode to mode depending on what I was doing. Hanging around chatting, use text mode. Exploring, use isomorphic. Fighting, use first person. That would rock. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Caliban Tiresias Darklock <caliban#darklock,com> | "I'm not sorry or Darklock Communications <<A HREF="http://www.darklock.com/">http://www.darklock.com/</A>> | ashamed of who I PGP Key AD21EE50 at <<A HREF="http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu/~bal/">http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu/~bal/</A>> | really am." FREE KEVIN MITNICK! <<A HREF="http://www.kevinmitnick.com/">http://www.kevinmitnick.com/</A>> | - Charles Manson </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00939" HREF="msg00939.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Ben Greear <greear#cyberhighway,net></li></ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00929" HREF="msg00929.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> "Adam J. 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Thornton <a href="mailto:adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU">adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU</a>, Thu 03 Sep 1998, 15:23 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00941" HREF="msg00941.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Fri 04 Sep 1998, 05:30 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00953" HREF="msg00953.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Sat 05 Sep 1998, 01:23 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00959" HREF="msg00959.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Sat 05 Sep 1998, 03:35 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>