<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] RE: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch --> <!--X-From-R13: "Zrnpu, Penq PO" <Zrnpu.Penq.PONouc.pbz.nh> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:40:47 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 813EBA1AF80CD111B44F00805F15B46501566952@itntl-msg02.itntl.bhp.com.au --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] RE: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:Leach.Brad.BA#bhp,com.au"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00507.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00509.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00644.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00515.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00508">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00508">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00508">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] RE: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] RE: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Leach, Brad BA" <<A HREF="mailto:Leach.Brad.BA#bhp,com.au">Leach.Brad.BA#bhp,com.au</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 12:30:27 +1000 </LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Franklyn Colebrooke, Jr. wrote: > What I will be using is MSVC++ 5.0 (will get six when it's released) > Win98. > I would go for NT if its an option for you. Win9x seems plagued with instability problems. <Snip> > How practical is MFC for the job or creating a server for the > aforementioned ideas? > I havent actually played with the MFC a great deal, but my co-imp has. After a few days of playing around, he trashed everything he had written and wrote the server using straight winsock and other win32 specific api's. I know SmaugWiz (A Win32 port of Smaug), was written using MSVC++ 5.0, and uses the MFC in several cases. Offhand, I think there is a link to the source from <URL:<A HREF="http://ftp.game.org/smaug">http://ftp.game.org/smaug</A>> (I may be wrong though, and I dont have a web browers handy to check, sorry). There is probably overhead with the MFC. I guess it comes down to how efficent vs maintainable you want your server to be. :-) Just on the topic of maintainability, has anyone implemented the platform-independant server code using a design pattern of the "Bridge"? (Design Patterns, Gof) I prefer to work on a Unix platform, but my co-imp likes Win32. The "Bridge" seemes like a nice pattern to solve this problem, but at what cost of performance? Cheers, -Brad <sig snipp'ed> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="01013" HREF="msg01013.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> J C Lawrence <claw#under,engr.sgi.com></li></ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00531" HREF="msg00531.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Adam Wiggins <adam#mail,angel.com></li></ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00515" HREF="msg00515.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> "T. 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Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 07 Aug 1998, 04:53 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00527" HREF="msg00527.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Question regarding Java threads</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 17:11 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00622" HREF="msg00622.html">[MUD-Dev] RE: Question regarding Java threads</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Mon 10 Aug 1998, 10:42 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00644" HREF="msg00644.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Question regarding Java threads</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Tue 11 Aug 1998, 02:39 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00508" HREF="msg00508.html">[MUD-Dev] RE: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, Leach, Brad BA <a href="mailto:Leach.Brad.BA#bhp,com.au">Leach.Brad.BA#bhp,com.au</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 02:40 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00515" HREF="msg00515.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, T. Alexander Popiel <a href="mailto:popiel#snugharbor,com">popiel#snugharbor,com</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 06:20 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00531" HREF="msg00531.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#mail,angel.com">adam#mail,angel.com</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 18:18 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01013" HREF="msg01013.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 11 Sep 1998, 02:43 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00505" HREF="msg00505.html">[MUD-Dev] [IDEAS] Starting from scratch</A></strong>, Franklyn Colebrooke, Jr. <a href="mailto:colebrookef#post,uwstout.edu">colebrookef#post,uwstout.edu</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 01:22 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>