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<LI><em>From</em>: "S. Patrick Gallaty" &lt;<A HREF="mailto:choke#sirius,com">choke#sirius,com</A>&gt;</LI>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Marian Griffith &lt;gryphon#iaehv,nl&gt;
To: Mud Dev Mailing list &lt;mud-dev#kanga,nu&gt;
Date: Thursday, 09 July 1998 12:46
Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun


&gt;On Tue 07 Jul, Matt Chatterley wrote:
&gt;

&gt;The most immediate and potentially powerfull reward is that Bubba and that
&gt;traveller can become friends, or at least help each other out. This is the
&gt;one thing that killer characters do not tend to have,  an extensive social
&gt;circle to draw on.

Agreed to some extend.  Most killers don't have 'extensive' social 
networks they have gangs.  Many are solo, especially harassers as you
know.

&gt; If the game is such that a player cann't survive on her
&gt;own then those social relations and friends suddenly can become important.
&gt;I have seen the reverse happen on a mud I used to play. The mud used to be
&gt;one where most areas required groups. Then one fatefull day the imms deci-
&gt;ded that multiclassing was cool and set out to make it happen.  Soon every
&gt;other character had all skills in all classes. The players loved it but it
&gt;had a very serious side effect.  Players suddenly could travel pretty much
&gt;everywhere on their own.  The entire social structure that had been strong
&gt;on that mud was torn down and things that were unheard of before, like pk,
&gt;stealing and harassment, began to appear with the influx of new players.


Ah!
Have you read my post on precisely this point?  I just posted almost the
same sentiment.  
Multi-classes and classless games are the biggest contributor IMO to
lack of online community and thus antisocial behaviour along with
anonymity and rapid character advancement.





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<LI><strong><A NAME="00160" HREF="msg00160.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Support for remote NPCs</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00114" HREF="msg00114.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, 
Till Eulenspiegel <a href="mailto:choke#sirius,com">choke#sirius,com</a>, Thu 09 Jul 1998, 17:48 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00137" HREF="msg00137.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 10 Jul 1998, 03:04 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00460" HREF="msg00460.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 03 Aug 1998, 19:50 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00125" HREF="msg00125.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, 
S. Patrick Gallaty <a href="mailto:choke#sirius,com">choke#sirius,com</a>, Thu 09 Jul 1998, 19:56 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00128" HREF="msg00128.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, 
Michael.Willey <a href="mailto:Michael.Willey#abnamro,com">Michael.Willey#abnamro,com</a>, Thu 09 Jul 1998, 20:43 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00130" HREF="msg00130.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, 
S. Patrick Gallaty <a href="mailto:choke#sirius,com">choke#sirius,com</a>, Thu 09 Jul 1998, 22:28 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00152" HREF="msg00152.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, 
Michael.Willey <a href="mailto:Michael.Willey#abnamro,com">Michael.Willey#abnamro,com</a>, Fri 10 Jul 1998, 17:03 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00204" HREF="msg00204.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></strong>, 
Maddy <a href="mailto:maddy#fysh,org">maddy#fysh,org</a>, Tue 14 Jul 1998, 13:22 GMT
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