<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: let's call it a spellcraft --> <!--X-From-R13: Hnqvz Fxnpuraxb <igNserrubyq.pebpbqvyr.bet> --> <!--X-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 00:36:58 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 360DEB25.F08942C5#freehold,crocodile.org --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: AF02FD48C411D211868400E0291AAB2C3DD15E@EXMAIL10-1 --> <!--X-Reference: 199809260457.WAA14937#darklock,com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: let's call it a spellcraft</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01296.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01298.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01287.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01299.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01297">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01297">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01297">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: let's call it a spellcraft</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: let's call it a spellcraft</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Vadim Tkachenko <<A HREF="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 02:37:09 -0500</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Caliban Tiresias Darklock wrote: > [skipped] > You do NOT want to know how much of the AD&D rules had to be rewritten to > accommodate the classless character. Suffice to say it was second only to > the amount of rewriting necessary to do away with separate to-hit/damage > rolls and replace them with a single roll. The problem with D&D (or AD&D, for that matter) is (was, I've read your next message) is that it's not actually a set of _rules_, rather a set of _exceptions_ from rules (IMHO). It lacks consistency and resembles a very heavy legalese. It's impossible to formalize. On the other hand, it's immortal for a very simple reason - easy name recognition and halo of honor around it ;-) Side note: have anyone played with non-linear dependencies which can easily simulate the lack of consistency in [A]D&D world? There was an excellent example with a logarithm and sinus modulation to the experience/difficulty of learning curve, is that all? > Caliban Tiresias Darklock -- Still alive and smile stays on, Vadim Tkachenko <vt#freehold,crocodile.org> -- UNIX _is_ user friendly, he's just very picky about who his friends are </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="01299" HREF="msg01299.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: let's call it a spellcraft</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Caliban Tiresias Darklock <caliban#darklock,com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="01242" HREF="msg01242.html">[MUD-Dev] FW: [MUD-Dev] Re: let's call it a spellcraft</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Peck, Matthew x96724c1" <x96724#exmail,usma.army.mil></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="01253" HREF="msg01253.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: let's call it a spellcraft</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Caliban Tiresias Darklock <caliban#darklock,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01296.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: let's call it a spellcraft</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01298.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Room descriptions</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01287.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: let's call it a spellcraft</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01299.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: let's call it a spellcraft</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01297"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01297"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: let's call it a spellcraft</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="01296" HREF="msg01296.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: let's call it a spellcraft</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Sun 27 Sep 1998, 07:12 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="01253" HREF="msg01253.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: let's call it a spellcraft</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Sat 26 Sep 1998, 04:58 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01268" HREF="msg01268.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: let's call it a spellcraft</A></strong>, Adam J. Thornton <a href="mailto:adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU">adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU</a>, Sat 26 Sep 1998, 17:13 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01287" HREF="msg01287.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: let's call it a spellcraft</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Sat 26 Sep 1998, 23:04 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01297" HREF="msg01297.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: let's call it a spellcraft</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Sun 27 Sep 1998, 07:36 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01299" HREF="msg01299.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: let's call it a spellcraft</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Sun 27 Sep 1998, 07:55 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01238" HREF="msg01238.html">[MUD-Dev] FPL: Another embeddable bytecoded scripting language</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 25 Sep 1998, 23:28 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01262" HREF="msg01262.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: FPL: Another embeddable bytecoded scripting language</A></strong>, Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk</a>, Sat 26 Sep 1998, 13:00 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01266" HREF="msg01266.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: FPL: Another embeddable bytecoded scripting language</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Sat 26 Sep 1998, 16:20 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>