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<H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Modular MUD [Was:Finer points of Telnet programming ...]</H1>
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<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Modular MUD [Was:Finer points of Telnet programming ...]</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: Chris Gray &lt;<A HREF="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</A>&gt;</LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:04:06 -0600</LI>
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[Caliban Tiresias Darklock:]

 &gt;I don't generally have to reboot either. Visual C++ is pretty smart at
 &gt;catching my bonehead mistakes before I ever run the program. Which is
 &gt;another thing that bugs me about Unix; the development tools are very good
 &gt;at doing what you tell them, but they don't generally tell YOU a damn
 &gt;thing. I don't mind having to sleuth around to find stuff (Windows
 &gt;certainly requires it enough), but I'd rather not have to do it ALL THE
 &gt;TIME. Unix requires me to think of everything myself, and never jogs my
 &gt;memory. Some people work better that way. I'm not one of them. I would
 &gt;certainly be annoyed if Visual C++ popped up a dialog for every error and
 &gt;expected me to fix it immediately, but I like it to sit down there and just
 &gt;tell me what it finds. Ideally it shouldn't find anything, but at least I
 &gt;can tell where I did something strange on purpose... and that's usually a
 &gt;good place for a comment about why I did it.

This has nothing to do with MUD programming, I expect, but I thought
I would comment here - I have used both environments, but only at the
C level (I'm not into C++).

Running gcc on Unix with warnings enabled is about the same as running
VC 5 with warnings enabled - both will tell you about all sorts of
little things. I always run with all warning enabled. If you do your
Unix makes under emacs, it will also take your cursor to the place
of the errors, one at a time. Thus, the two environments are very
similar in that sense.

One difference I have noted is that VC 5 has a bit more trouble dealing
with errors - it usually has extra error indicators after the initial
error, that don't help at all. From a compiler-writer point of view,
it seems to not have an internal 'error' type, and thus issues complaints
about types after a bad symbol, and those are quite unneccessary.

-- 
Chris Gray     cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA


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<LI><strong><A NAME="00864" HREF="msg00864.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: The 'consider' command</A></strong>, 
Damion Schubert <a href="mailto:zjiria#texas,net">zjiria#texas,net</a>, Thu 27 Aug 1998, 05:11 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00866" HREF="msg00866.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: The 'consider' command</A></strong>, 
Jon Leonard <a href="mailto:jleonard#divcom,slimy.com">jleonard#divcom,slimy.com</a>, Thu 27 Aug 1998, 07:08 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00863" HREF="msg00863.html">[MUD-Dev] The 'consider' command</A></strong>, 
Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Wed 26 Aug 1998, 22:45 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00867" HREF="msg00867.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: The 'consider' command</A></strong>, 
Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt <a href="mailto:hhs#cbs,dtu.dk">hhs#cbs,dtu.dk</a>, Thu 27 Aug 1998, 11:15 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00862" HREF="msg00862.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Modular MUD [Was:Finer points of Telnet programming ...]</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Wed 26 Aug 1998, 14:06 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00823" HREF="msg00823.html">[MUD-Dev] [off-topic] Email</A></strong>, 
Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <a href="mailto:asmodai#wxs,nl">asmodai#wxs,nl</a>, Sun 23 Aug 1998, 10:22 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00821" HREF="msg00821.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Finer points of Telnet programming ...</A></strong>, 
quzah <a href="mailto:quzah#geocities,com">quzah#geocities,com</a>, Sun 23 Aug 1998, 07:53 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00834" HREF="msg00834.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Finer points of Telnet programming ...</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 24 Aug 1998, 21:23 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00827" HREF="msg00827.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Finer points of Telnet programming ...</A></strong>, 
Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Sun 23 Aug 1998, 18:42 GMT
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