<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Modular MUD [Was:Finer points of Telnet programming ...] --> <!--X-From-R13: Quevf Uenl <ptNnzv-pt.UenlEntr.Sqzbagba.OP.QO> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 07:06:07 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199808261404.IAA01081@ami-cg.GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Modular MUD [Was:Finer points of Telnet programm</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00861.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00863.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00867.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00823.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00862">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00862">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00862">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Modular MUD [Was:Finer points of Telnet programming ...]</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Modular MUD [Was:Finer points of Telnet programming ...]</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Chris Gray <<A HREF="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:04:06 -0600</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> [Caliban Tiresias Darklock:] >I don't generally have to reboot either. Visual C++ is pretty smart at >catching my bonehead mistakes before I ever run the program. Which is >another thing that bugs me about Unix; the development tools are very good >at doing what you tell them, but they don't generally tell YOU a damn >thing. I don't mind having to sleuth around to find stuff (Windows >certainly requires it enough), but I'd rather not have to do it ALL THE >TIME. Unix requires me to think of everything myself, and never jogs my >memory. Some people work better that way. I'm not one of them. I would >certainly be annoyed if Visual C++ popped up a dialog for every error and >expected me to fix it immediately, but I like it to sit down there and just >tell me what it finds. Ideally it shouldn't find anything, but at least I >can tell where I did something strange on purpose... and that's usually a >good place for a comment about why I did it. This has nothing to do with MUD programming, I expect, but I thought I would comment here - I have used both environments, but only at the C level (I'm not into C++). Running gcc on Unix with warnings enabled is about the same as running VC 5 with warnings enabled - both will tell you about all sorts of little things. I always run with all warning enabled. If you do your Unix makes under emacs, it will also take your cursor to the place of the errors, one at a time. Thus, the two environments are very similar in that sense. One difference I have noted is that VC 5 has a bit more trouble dealing with errors - it usually has extra error indicators after the initial error, that don't help at all. From a compiler-writer point of view, it seems to not have an internal 'error' type, and thus issues complaints about types after a bad symbol, and those are quite unneccessary. -- Chris Gray cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00861.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Marion's Tailor Problem</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00863.html">[MUD-Dev] The 'consider' command</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00867.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: The 'consider' command</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00823.html">[MUD-Dev] [off-topic] Email</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00862"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00862"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00864" HREF="msg00864.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: The 'consider' command</A></strong>, Damion Schubert <a href="mailto:zjiria#texas,net">zjiria#texas,net</a>, Thu 27 Aug 1998, 05:11 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00866" HREF="msg00866.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: The 'consider' command</A></strong>, Jon Leonard <a href="mailto:jleonard#divcom,slimy.com">jleonard#divcom,slimy.com</a>, Thu 27 Aug 1998, 07:08 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00863" HREF="msg00863.html">[MUD-Dev] The 'consider' command</A></strong>, Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Wed 26 Aug 1998, 22:45 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00867" HREF="msg00867.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: The 'consider' command</A></strong>, Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt <a href="mailto:hhs#cbs,dtu.dk">hhs#cbs,dtu.dk</a>, Thu 27 Aug 1998, 11:15 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00862" HREF="msg00862.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Modular MUD [Was:Finer points of Telnet programming ...]</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Wed 26 Aug 1998, 14:06 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00823" HREF="msg00823.html">[MUD-Dev] [off-topic] Email</A></strong>, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <a href="mailto:asmodai#wxs,nl">asmodai#wxs,nl</a>, Sun 23 Aug 1998, 10:22 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00821" HREF="msg00821.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Finer points of Telnet programming ...</A></strong>, quzah <a href="mailto:quzah#geocities,com">quzah#geocities,com</a>, Sun 23 Aug 1998, 07:53 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00834" HREF="msg00834.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Finer points of Telnet programming ...</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 24 Aug 1998, 21:23 GMT </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00827" HREF="msg00827.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Finer points of Telnet programming ...</A></strong>, Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Sun 23 Aug 1998, 18:42 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>