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<LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI>
<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Question regarding Java threads</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: Chris Gray <<A HREF="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:00:24 -0600</LI>
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[Vadim Tkachenko:]
>> Character-mode telnet connections are indeed evil. They consume far
>> more resources than a line-mode telnet connection.
>
>What is clear, is that the line mode allows buffering and utilizes the
>protocol features better than character mode. Also, the interim solution
>is WON'T ECHO, DO ECHO, if I remember it right, so the echo wouldn't
>travel back and forth. Is there anything else which is a reason for such
>evilness?
The order of magnitude increase in packets is my main concern. The
higher typing latency for the user is another. Also, as I believed I
mentioned in a previous note, my experience with trying to use
DO ECHO and DONT ECHO to toggle the client's echoing of passwords
just doesn't work in many telnet clients.
>> Of course the full solution is for everyone to use my not-yet-written
>> Java client, which connects in a binary mode which doesn't even have
>> the concept of a character mode. :-/
>
>Hold on a second, I might forget some details, but isn't it right that a
>character mode _IS_ a binary mode with the command sequences in between?
Depends on your definitions, I guess. I look at character mode as just
being an 8 bit character mode that has a few escape conventions. A true
binary mode doesn't need any escapes since each packet has a binary
header that contains any needed control information. So, a binary
mode transmits slightly more data, but it always does so as larger packets.
--
Chris Gray cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00536" HREF="msg00536.html">[MUD-Dev] Protocols</A></strong>,
Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Fri 07 Aug 1998, 04:53 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00510" HREF="msg00510.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Question regarding Java threads</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 04:03 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00511" HREF="msg00511.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Question regarding Java threads</A></strong>,
Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 04:40 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00514" HREF="msg00514.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Question regarding Java threads</A></strong>,
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 06:06 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00518" HREF="msg00518.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Question regarding Java threads</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 14:04 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00509" HREF="msg00509.html">[MUD-Dev] Question regarding Java threads</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 03:26 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00513" HREF="msg00513.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Question regarding Java threads</A></strong>,
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 06:01 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00535" HREF="msg00535.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Question regarding Java threads</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 07 Aug 1998, 04:53 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00527" HREF="msg00527.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Question regarding Java threads</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 17:11 GMT
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