<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s --> <!--X-From-R13: f001tzhNabin.jevtug.rqh --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 13:26:38 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.PMDF.3.95.980721161537.541220523A-100000#nova,wright.edu --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199807210136.TAA02608@ami-cg.GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00281.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00283.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00274.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00289.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00282">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00282">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00282">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:24:55 -0400 (EDT)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Mon, 20 Jul 1998, Chris Gray wrote: > [s001gmu#nova,wright.edu (Greg):] > > >Short of some titanic force, no unaided mortal will break the axe head, > >but the handle is quite breakable. Now, another can of worms is opened > >when I ask, "uh.. what happens to the handle? is it 2 distinct 'broken > >wooden axehandle' objects?" I choose not to address that, atm. :) Words > >of wisdom from the peanut gallery? > > You mean like, allowing disassembly being the first step, and breakage > being the second step of a infinite path leading nowhere? :-) ya... that's why I chose not to answer it. > You either have to stop somewhere, fake it, or get generic. heh. I'd say generic. Faking it tends to fall apart after a while... > The game value of allowing assembly/disassembly can be good. Yup. I really like the idea. > The game value of allowing > that kind of breakage is likely less generally useful (how is it better, > for the game, than just ending up with a single "broken axe handle"?) I can see where breaking things can be of importance to the game. Consider a wall betwixt you and the treasure of masive manlyness. Granted, I might be tempted to call walls a construction of bricks, but then, do I really want to model EVERY brick? I don't think so... not until memory gets to the range of $0.01/GB. This thread feels like it is pulling us back towards a thread quite a while back that JC was prominent in, about grouping items, etc. > If you want to go that path, consider modelling the axe handle as a > rough cylinder of given dimensions. Breaking it produces a pair of > rougher cylinders of appropriate dimensions. The breakability of a piece > of wood is related to its smallest dimension (unless of course you want > to get into issues of wood-grain). I choose not to comment... :P where to draw the line on what to model and what to fake has yet to be determined for my project. :) -Greg </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00289" HREF="msg00289.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Adam Wiggins <adam#angel,com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00274" HREF="msg00274.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Chris Gray <cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00281.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00283.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00274.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00289.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00282"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00282"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00319" HREF="msg00319.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</A></strong>, Adam J. Thornton <a href="mailto:adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU">adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU</a>, Thu 23 Jul 1998, 20:21 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00272" HREF="msg00272.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</A></strong>, quzah <a href="mailto:quzah#geocities,com">quzah#geocities,com</a>, Mon 20 Jul 1998, 20:37 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00312" HREF="msg00312.html">[MUD-Dev] Objects (was Re: DBMS in MU*'s)</A></strong>, s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Wed 22 Jul 1998, 18:26 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00274" HREF="msg00274.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Tue 21 Jul 1998, 01:36 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00282" HREF="msg00282.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</A></strong>, s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Tue 21 Jul 1998, 20:26 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00289" HREF="msg00289.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Tue 21 Jul 1998, 22:27 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00672" HREF="msg00672.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Wed 12 Aug 1998, 03:48 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00260" HREF="msg00260.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Scripting Design Notes</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sun 19 Jul 1998, 20:02 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00265" HREF="msg00265.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Scripting Design Notes</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Mon 20 Jul 1998, 05:06 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>