<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s --> <!--X-From-R13: "Xba O. Znzoreg" <wyflfvapNvk.argpbz.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 21:26:24 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199808120324.WAA19678@dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: asmodai#wxs,nl --> <!--X-Reference: 77182868FA7.AAA22A6#smtp04,wxs.nl --> <!--X-Reference: 199808112226.PAA06146#under,engr.sgi.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00674.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00676.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00666.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00250.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00675">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00675">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00675">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Jon A. Lambert" <<A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 23:25:37 -5</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On 11 Aug 98, J C Lawrence wrote: > > Attempting to translate my model into, say, an SQL DB (as I briefly > attempted), poses problems. The inter-object relationships which > (presumably) require indexes are dynamic and defined by the > user-written contents and definitions of the objects. As such I can't > pre-define the record structure in a manner that maps directly to the > object heirarchy. > Update to earlier threads: I have found a few theoretical papers on this pesky problem of mapping runtime dynamic objects into relational architectures. see: <URL: <A HREF="http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/dbimpl/blobs.html">http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/dbimpl/blobs.html</A>> and <URL:<A HREF="http://researchsmp2.cc.vt.edu/DB/db/indices/a-tree/r/Reinwald:Berthold">http://researchsmp2.cc.vt.edu/DB/db/indices/a-tree/r/Reinwald:Berthold</A> .html> B. Reinwald's papers on SMRC are right up this alley. I wasn't able to find out much about SMRC on the IBM web site as to it's availabilty for DB2/PC. But the papers will provide some good "oo's and ah's" before your eyes glaze over and you fall asleep. ;) -- --/*\ Jon A. Lambert - TychoMUD Internet:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com /*\-- --/*\ Mud Server Developer's Page <<A HREF="http://www.netcom.com/~jlsysinc">http://www.netcom.com/~jlsysinc</A>> /*\-- --/*\ "Everything that deceives may be said to enchant" - Plato /*\-- </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00251" HREF="msg00251.html">[MUD-Dev] DBMS in MU*'s</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai#wxs,nl></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00666" HREF="msg00666.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> J C Lawrence <claw#under,engr.sgi.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00674.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [CODE] [LANGUAGE/PLATFORM SPECIFIC] My Event Engine</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00676.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: lurker emerges</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00666.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00250.html">[MUD-Dev] Design Patterns for Concurrent, Parallel, and Distributed Systems</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00675"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00675"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00668" HREF="msg00668.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 11 Aug 1998, 23:14 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00678" HREF="msg00678.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</A></strong>, quzah <a href="mailto:quzah#geocities,com">quzah#geocities,com</a>, Wed 12 Aug 1998, 10:55 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00267" HREF="msg00267.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</A></strong>, Ross Nicoll <a href="mailto:rnicoll#lostics,demon.co.uk">rnicoll#lostics,demon.co.uk</a>, Mon 20 Jul 1998, 07:34 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00666" HREF="msg00666.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 11 Aug 1998, 22:26 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00675" HREF="msg00675.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: DBMS in MU*'s</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Wed 12 Aug 1998, 04:26 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00250" HREF="msg00250.html">[MUD-Dev] Design Patterns for Concurrent, Parallel, and Distributed Systems</A></strong>, Alex Oren <a href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</a>, Sun 19 Jul 1998, 08:32 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00246" HREF="msg00246.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [CODE] [LANGUAGE/PLATFORM SPECIFIC] My Event Engine</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sat 18 Jul 1998, 01:51 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00661" HREF="msg00661.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [CODE] [LANGUAGE/PLATFORM SPECIFIC] My Event Engine</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 11 Aug 1998, 17:32 GMT </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00248" HREF="msg00248.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [CODE] [LANGUAGE/PLATFORM SPECIFIC] My Event Engine</A></strong>, Todd Lair <a href="mailto:tlair#mailzone,com">tlair#mailzone,com</a>, Sat 18 Jul 1998, 05:18 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>