<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...) --> <!--X-From-R13: X Q Znjerapr <pynjNhaqre.rate.ftv.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 14:18:11 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199808072114.OAA05455#under,engr.sgi.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 00b201bdae9d$c8bd7580$3250f5cc#vulture,acclaim.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d M</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00540.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00542.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00195.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00196.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00541">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00541">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00541">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...) </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: J C Lawrence <<A HREF="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 14:14:21 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:35:27 -0700 S Patrick Gallaty<pgallaty#acclaim,com> wrote: > 1) Haven Players have to apply to create characters here. Their > characters are only accepted if the reviewer likes the name and > role-play character that the biography suggests. If players > complain about other players on this shard, the players risk being > suspended pending review - and role playing is enforced. I would imagine that liability is a huge and overriding concern. The following is written from a layman's viewpoint. I don't pretend to know this area, just to have noted a few rocks in the channel. A legal friend (he does criminal case law) I asked about this area about a year ago said something to the effect of, "I know several high faluting lawyers heading into there as fast as they can. They see money to be made in the confusion and possibly a way to get their names down in the history books. Its going to get really nasty for a while." If Origin said that they were going to "enforce" or even to do an "individual best effort" or some other statement of their level of commitment to the controls on the game, if something legally questionable (sexual harassment for instance) happens on the game and Origin is not instantly all over it like the wrath of God, then, as I understand the US legal system, Origin can quickly find itself complicit with the harassment as they "allowed it to occur and continue despite their monitoring and therefore responsibility for activities which occurred in the game world." I made this same point to Dr Cat a while back regarding his "safe system". There's a very treacherous and slippery slope there. Its all to easy for a philadelphia lawyer to get up in front of the court and claim and support that because the game operators attempted *ANY* control or monitoring that they are thereby inherently complicit if not direct accomplices to any misdoings. Related sexual harassment suits currently being decided upon in the US are deciding the question of whether a company should be legally liable for the sexually harassing actions of one of their employees (specifically a manager in the case in question) even if the harassment was no known about or reported to the internal control structures/HR of the company. Heck, I'd be pretty touchy with even the very light hand UOL appears to be taking with administrating player disputes. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net (Contractor) Internet: coder#ibm,net ---------(*) Internet: claw#under,engr.sgi.com ...Honourary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00195" HREF="msg00195.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...)</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "S. 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Patrick Gallaty <a href="mailto:pgallaty#acclaim,com">pgallaty#acclaim,com</a>, Mon 13 Jul 1998, 20:37 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00541" HREF="msg00541.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...)</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 07 Aug 1998, 21:18 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00196" HREF="msg00196.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Affordances and social method (Was: Re: Wire d Magazine...)</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Mon 13 Jul 1998, 20:58 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00104" HREF="msg00104.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Analysis and specification - the dirty words o</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 09 Jul 1998, 05:54 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00099" HREF="msg00099.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: In game bulletin boards vs. Web based.</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 09 Jul 1998, 02:54 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00117" HREF="msg00117.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: In game bulletin boards vs. Web based.</A></strong>, Jo Dillon <a href="mailto:emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk">emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk</a>, Thu 09 Jul 1998, 18:14 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>