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<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's </LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: "Damion Schubert" <<A HREF="mailto:zjiria#texas,net">zjiria#texas,net</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 00:51:41 -0500</LI>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan F Yospe <yospe#hawaii,edu>
>I'm curious - how do your artists' salaries compare to your programmer's? I
>have discovered that both are inevitably abysmally underpaid in Hawai'i, so
>have no way of reliably comparing the values...
>
>There's two reasons for this question: first, because I'm curious about the
>relative merits of hiring artists vs hiring more programmers to write a set
>of software driven art generation routines, and second, because I've worked
>as both locally, and would like to know how my pay stacked up.
In a startup, programmers and artists both get paid about the same:
for the love of the project, the thrill of the startup, and enough cash to
pay rent and buy Jolt for 48 hour marathon sessions. =)
Inside the industry, my experience is:
Good and great programmers get paid more than
good or great artists.
Average artists get paid more than average programmers.
Entry level people always get paid squat, and work out great
until they find out how much less they are making and go elsewhere.
Designers make less than everyone, unless you're a superstar
(i.e. Sid Meier level), in which case you make more than everyone.
Of course, people don't talk really openly about salaries, and I never
handed out checks, so this is largely conjecture. =)
--damion
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00521" HREF="msg00521.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>,
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 16:01 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00529" HREF="msg00529.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>,
Nathan F Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Thu 06 Aug 1998, 18:08 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01022" HREF="msg01022.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Sat 12 Sep 1998, 01:44 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01024" HREF="msg01024.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>,
Adam J. Thornton <a href="mailto:adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU">adam#phoenix,Princeton.EDU</a>, Sat 12 Sep 1998, 08:44 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00761" HREF="msg00761.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>,
Damion Schubert <a href="mailto:zjiria#texas,net">zjiria#texas,net</a>, Tue 18 Aug 1998, 05:45 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00810" HREF="msg00810.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Alternate UOL's</A></strong>,
Damion Schubert <a href="mailto:zjiria#texas,net">zjiria#texas,net</a>, Sat 22 Aug 1998, 04:01 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00153" HREF="msg00153.html">[MUD-Dev] Alternate UOL's</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 10 Jul 1998, 20:31 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00148" HREF="msg00148.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MapMaker</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Fri 10 Jul 1998, 14:17 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00149" HREF="msg00149.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MapMaker</A></strong>,
S. Patrick Gallaty <a href="mailto:choke#sirius,com">choke#sirius,com</a>, Fri 10 Jul 1998, 15:30 GMT
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