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<LI><em>From</em>: Ben Greear <<A HREF="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:12:04 -0700 (MST)</LI>
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On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Caliban Tiresias Darklock wrote:
> On 09:41 PM 9/2/98 -0700, I personally witnessed Ben Greear jumping up to say:
> >
> >So, who here is considering writing a server that talks (only)
> >with a graphical client. And not just a web browser. I'm talking
> >fully 3-d rendering with all the assembly (or whatever) that goes
> >with it.
>
> You mean like Quake? <GDR>
I spose..never played Quake. However, it would be heavily strategy
oriented... I would try to model large scale battle (armies),
personal combat (ship-to-ship), economic power...and of course all
the normal politics that goes into a good MUD :)
Think of it, perhaps, as a cross of Risk/Civilization/Quake and
Star-Wars...
>
> I have some fundamental problems with the idea of this, namely that in
> order to create a client and server that do this effectively, you have to
> make some pretty severe tradeoffs in functionality. But that's a big hairy
> religious issue, so I'll just leave it at saying "I don't think a graphical
> client would appropriately or effectively support what I want to do."
I will code to be useful on a PentiumII 400 Mhz...they will be passe by
the time I could finish such a project. What tradeoffs do you see?
>
> And yes, a lot of people are discussing this sort of thing. I don't know
> how seriously they're considering it, but I've often thought that it might
> be very cool indeed to do something with an interface very much like
> Dungeon Keeper -- you look at the world in a sort of 3D isomorphic view
> most of the time, for perspective, but you can jump down into first-person
> mode and get that full rendering effect. (Of course, DK's rendering is a
> lot more like Doom than Quake... and honestly, the build interface is more
> or less like Wolf3D.)
>
> It might be really cool to do a graphical/text client. Something where you
> can have a text mode interface *and* a graphical interface. I'd like that a
> lot. I'd be really impressed by it. I'd jump from mode to mode depending on
> what I was doing. Hanging around chatting, use text mode. Exploring, use
> isomorphic. Fighting, use first person. That would rock.
I see no problem with having communication be text based, but other than
that...its much harder to write a text world (I'm doing it now.). I think
it might be easier to let the computer do all the work. Of course, I'm
probably highly ignorant of the real work that goes into making the
graphics work..
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Darklock Communications <<A HREF="http://www.darklock.com/">http://www.darklock.com/</A>> | ashamed of who I
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> MUD-Dev: Advancing an unrealised future.
>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00953" HREF="msg00953.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00959" HREF="msg00959.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00930" HREF="msg00930.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00940" HREF="msg00940.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00942" HREF="msg00942.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>,
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Fri 04 Sep 1998, 05:39 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00966" HREF="msg00966.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wild idea.. :)</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sat 05 Sep 1998, 20:26 GMT
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