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<LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: Ben Greear <<A HREF="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 04:08:42 +0000</LI>
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Shane King wrote:
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> I'm currently working on a mud design, and what I'm really a little
> stuck on is the best way to progress with respect to virtual machine
> design. As I see it, there are four basic options I could go with:
>
> 1) A java virtual machine, running compiled java (or java-like) code
> 2) Adapt an existing virtual machine from another mud to my needs
> 3) Write my own virtual machine, and make it a target for the egcs
> compiler, thus allowing it to run byte compiled C/C++ code.
> 4) Write my own virtual machine, and write my own mud language.
>
> Am I missing any options here?
I'm curious why so many people want to build internal languages into
their MUD? I don't mean to sound critical, it's just that I have never
really seen the benefit. These are the issues that I see:
1) Common users can't program in any real language, so why implement
one
in the game. Surely it would be easier to just write all the code in
a 'real' language of your choice and then use readily available
compilers
to make it into a binary....
2) Common users can script, so I definately see the need for simple
scripting.
3) I understand that many people strive for a basic interpreter type of
shell, which is incredibly flexible, and then use this language to write
their game particulars in. However, to me this looks a lot like
re-writing
the OS.
4) I think it would be pretty cool to implement such a system, just for
the
sake of coding it up, but I don't see the practical benefits. Please
enlighten me! :)
Ben
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00293" HREF="msg00293.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Sockets</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00054" HREF="msg00054.html">[MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00059" HREF="msg00059.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00074" HREF="msg00074.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></strong>,
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