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<LI><em>From</em>: Chris Gray <<A HREF="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</A>></LI>
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[Ola Fosheim:]
> ohshudupmineis100mhzandincrediblyfastandiamnotgoingtobuyanewoneunlessitistentimesfasterandhalfthepricecanihaveyoursplease?
<laff!> <Sticks tongue out and goes "THHBBBBRRTT!"> No! :-)
> Only 1000??? Hardly impressive for a man at your age!!! Even *I*, a snotty
> twentysomething, can beat that! My CBM64 is probably 1200 times slower than
> my P100 is ((32bit/8bit)*(3cycles/1cycle)*100), and that is for simple
> integers. If we are talking floatpoint, expect to see numbers approaching
> 100000. Not to mention that it takes two minutes for this multiprocessor
> machinegun to load 64kb or so from a diskdrive, for cassette it would be...
> forget it.
Hmm. I wouldn't count all of the 32/8, but I had forgotten the multiple
cyles. I was going from my old 500khz 8080, to 300Mhz.
> Chris, you really need to understand that your dream will probably take
> another 10 years or so to implement, and by that time we probably have a new
> programming paradigm, a new architecture, computers will be 1000 times
> faster than now, free muds are better than the commercial muds of today and
> you will have to rewrite your server in a new multiprocessing language
> anyway.
Gack! That's all one sentence. I hope I'm not that far away (if only I
would put some time in on it). Also, as I've mentioned in the past, I
think I can readily absorb as much resources as can be thrown at me. As
for new programming paradigm's, I certainly haven't adopted the current
(and starting to fade - hurray!) C++ stuff. Us old curmudgeon's resist
that sort of thing.
> Seriously, I am wondering if understanding how the processor pipeline works,
> caching etc, etc, is getting in the way when I use languages like C and C++
> where I _know_ how this will look as machinecode, and what the consequences
> are.
Agreed. I prefer to not have to think at that level. I've never really
been into performance analysis, but I do find it hard to put up with
code that I know can easily be done significantly more efficiently.
--
Don't design inefficiency in - it'll happen in the implementation.
Chris Gray cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA
<A HREF="http://www.GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA/cg/">http://www.GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA/cg/</A>
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<LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Quadtrees?</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00325" HREF="msg00325.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Quadtrees?</A></strong>,
Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk</a>, Mon 24 May 1999, 16:54 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00327" HREF="msg00327.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Quadtrees?</A></strong>,
Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#zesoi,fer.hr">silovic#zesoi,fer.hr</a>, Tue 25 May 1999, 15:15 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00317" HREF="msg00317.html">[MUD-Dev] Kanga.Nu has finally moved...</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00318" HREF="msg00318.html">[MUD-Dev] Kanga.Nu has finally moved...</A></strong>,
claw <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Thu 20 May 1999, 06:55 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00309" HREF="msg00309.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Noise: boys will be boys (was Re: [MUD-Dev] Multi-threaded mud server.)</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Thu 20 May 1999, 05:10 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00312" HREF="msg00312.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Noise: boys will be boys (was Re: [MUD-Dev] Multi-threaded mud server.)</A></strong>,
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Thu 20 May 1999, 05:13 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00270" HREF="msg00270.html">[MUD-Dev] Multi-threaded mud server.</A></strong>,
Ross Nicoll <a href="mailto:rnicoll#lostics,demon.co.uk">rnicoll#lostics,demon.co.uk</a>, Sun 16 May 1999, 21:09 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00273" HREF="msg00273.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Multi-threaded mud server.</A></strong>,
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Mon 17 May 1999, 03:48 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00277" HREF="msg00277.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Multi-threaded mud server.</A></strong>,
Ross Nicoll <a href="mailto:rnicoll#lostics,demon.co.uk">rnicoll#lostics,demon.co.uk</a>, Mon 17 May 1999, 04:22 GMT
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