<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design --> <!--X-From-R13: Pra Uerrne <terrneNploreuvtujnl.arg> --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 01:01:52 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 371A7A56.CEFBCEED#cyberhighway,net --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 19990416195942.A1116#donut,dhis.org --> <!--X-Reference: 3718094A.999AAFF1#cyberhighway,net --> <!--X-Reference: 14105.47684.947997.55534#arioch,tky.hut.fi --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00081.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00083.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00077.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00088.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00082">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00082">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00082">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Ben Greear <<A HREF="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:35:34 +0000</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:greear#burrito,cyberhighway.net">greear#burrito,cyberhighway.net</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Petri Virkkula wrote: > > >>>>> "Ben" == Ben Greear <greear#cyberhighway,net> writes: > > Ben> 2) Common users can script, so I definately see the need for simple > Ben> scripting. > > What's the difference between scripting and programming? Is > scripting a some sort of "ad hoc programming"? > Nothing technical, really. Just the complexity of the system, and the options available to the coder. > IMHO it is very desirable to make protection between objects, > ie. if an object makes an illegal operation it cannot (too badly) > disturb state of other objects or the system as whole. Ie. the > interpreter works just like an operating system, but with > smaller granularity. It is also desirable to have more higher > level services, for example it easier just to > write_file("myfile", "append this text\n") instead of opening > a file, appending something to it and then closing the file. I guess I'm addicted to having infinate control and power over the system. For the most part I will never cast void pointers, but if I need to, then I sure don't want to be restricted. Same goes for random access into files and other nasty things. Maybe it would be good to have a language that won't let me, for my own sanity.. > > Petri -- Ben Greear (greear#cyberhighway,net) <A HREF="http://www.primenet.com/~greear">http://www.primenet.com/~greear</A> Author of ScryMUD: mud.primenet.com 4444 (Released under GPL) <A HREF="http://www.primenet.com/~greear/ScryMUD/scry.html">http://www.primenet.com/~greear/ScryMUD/scry.html</A> _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00088" HREF="msg00088.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Petri Virkkula <pvirkkul#iki,fi></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00054" HREF="msg00054.html">[MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Shane King <thandor#donut,dhis.org></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00057" HREF="msg00057.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Ben Greear <greear#cyberhighway,net></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00077" HREF="msg00077.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Petri Virkkula <pvirkkul#iki,fi></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00081.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00083.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00077.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00088.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00082"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00082"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><EM>Message not available</EM><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00090" HREF="msg00090.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 20 Apr 1999, 05:39 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00061" HREF="msg00061.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></strong>, Niklas Elmqvist <a href="mailto:d97elm#dtek,chalmers.se">d97elm#dtek,chalmers.se</a>, Sat 17 Apr 1999, 16:33 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00063" HREF="msg00063.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></strong>, Oliver Jowett <a href="mailto:icecube#ihug,co.nz">icecube#ihug,co.nz</a>, Sat 17 Apr 1999, 16:34 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00077" HREF="msg00077.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></strong>, Petri Virkkula <a href="mailto:pvirkkul#iki,fi">pvirkkul#iki,fi</a>, Sun 18 Apr 1999, 17:22 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00082" HREF="msg00082.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Mon 19 Apr 1999, 08:01 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00088" HREF="msg00088.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></strong>, Petri Virkkula <a href="mailto:pvirkkul#iki,fi">pvirkkul#iki,fi</a>, Mon 19 Apr 1999, 19:47 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00058" HREF="msg00058.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></strong>, Alex Stewart <a href="mailto:riche#crl,com">riche#crl,com</a>, Sat 17 Apr 1999, 04:44 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00065" HREF="msg00065.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></strong>, Jo Dillon <a href="mailto:emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk">emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk</a>, Sat 17 Apr 1999, 16:49 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00060" HREF="msg00060.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sat 17 Apr 1999, 16:31 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>