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<LI><em>From</em>: "Jon A. Lambert" <<A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 02:22:17 -5</LI>
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On 6 Jun 99,, Matthew Mihaly wrote:
> Thoughts on the nature of realism in MUDs.
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> A few people have mentioned 'realism' as if MUDs need to be a simulation
> of some artificial reality, complete with consistency, etc. I would argue
> that this is not only necessary, but that it is impossible. True
> consistency would concist
---This thought seems to have been abruptly interrupted. :)
Let me jump on your thought by saying... yes, some people want, need, and
desire that their muds radiate an aura, a smell, a vision, or a feeling
which causes the user to become enspelled, ensnared and ensorcerelled in
another reality of sorts. We also _know_ it is impossible to implement
an alternate reality that is fully consistent and/or perceived as
consistent by all others; or most others; or even just a smattering
others. Some of us may even be able to mathematically prove the futility
of such a thing.
I suppose that anyone designing a mud is trying to capture something. It
could be a large playerbase, it could be money, it could be just plain
fun, it could be coolness, complexity, a social thing, a technical
acheivement, to please others, to please oneself, or just a desire to
express some warped vision in a more solid form.
So discussing how muds should be or ought to be is like a group of
artists discussing how to capture woman on canvas. Technical
information, techniques, ideas and other items of value may be freely
exchanged among them; but in the end, Renoir, Rossetti, Warhol,
Botticelli, Picasso, Titian and Beardsley will put her to canvas and
then post on mud_dev claiming this _is_ woman.
And this is good. ;)
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<LI><STRONG>RE: [MUD-Dev] Average play time?</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00609" HREF="msg00609.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Average play time?</A></strong>,
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 08 Jun 1999, 21:39 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00579" HREF="msg00579.html">[MUD-Dev] Newbies (was Re: [MUD-Dev] Text Parsing)</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00590" HREF="msg00590.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Newbies (was Re: [MUD-Dev] Text Parsing)</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00561" HREF="msg00561.html">[MUD-Dev] realism</A></strong>,
Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Mon 07 Jun 1999, 04:26 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00562" HREF="msg00562.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] realism</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 07 Jun 1999, 06:24 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00577" HREF="msg00577.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] realism</A></strong>,
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Mon 07 Jun 1999, 18:55 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00581" HREF="msg00581.html">[MUD-Dev] Gender and Mud Development</A></strong>,
Nathan F Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Mon 07 Jun 1999, 19:25 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00598" HREF="msg00598.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Gender and Mud Development</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00604" HREF="msg00604.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] {OT} Gender and Mud Development</A></strong>,
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