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<LI><em>From</em>: Martin C Sweitzer &lt;<A HREF="mailto:msew%2B#andrew,cmu.edu">msew+@andrew.cmu.edu</A>&gt;</LI>
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Excerpts from mud-dev: 7-Jun-99 Re: [MUD-Dev] realism by Jp
Calderone#flashmail,c 
&gt; &gt; A few people have mentioned 'realism' as if MUDs need to be a simulation
&gt; &gt; of some artificial reality, complete with consistency, etc. I would argue
&gt; &gt; that this is not only necessary, but that it is impossible.
&gt; &gt; &lt;snip&gt;
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&gt; Some mornings, after many hours of coding, usually around 5-5:30, right
&gt; when the sun is begining to come up, I'll pull out my bike and go for
&gt; a short ride.  Helps clear the head and forces me to come back and go to
&gt; sleep finally.  Anyway, when I see the sun rise (unfortunately over the
&gt; golf course, can't be helped), I think, "There is no way I can ever
&gt; simulate that."  Ands thats it.  I resign myself to that fact and go
&gt; home.

Hrmm.  If you have played Everquest the first time it rains.  the first
time you hear the thunder.  the first time you come out of a cave and it
is dawn and you see the sun rising.  You just sit in your room and go
WOW.

I think as soon as you give up the hope of trying to make something
realistic, something that our years growing up reinforces you are going
to miss out on something.

I think striving for making people FEEL that it is dawn on your mud is
something vital to make your game whole.


I think that most people get de-sensitized to these things over time. 
But that first time feeling that people get is so worth it.


For me when I go for my equiv of a "bike-ride" I just get sad and
inbittered that I can't make the sun rise as beautiful.  I go home drink
some mt dew shut the shades and code up something with that inspired
energy.


msew 



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<LI><strong><A NAME="00574" HREF="msg00574.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] realism</A></strong>, 
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Mon 07 Jun 1999, 18:25 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00589" HREF="msg00589.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] realism</A></strong>, 
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Tue 08 Jun 1999, 02:31 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00670" HREF="msg00670.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] realism</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#varesearch,com">claw#varesearch,com</a>, Thu 10 Jun 1999, 03:56 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00584" HREF="msg00584.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] realism</A></strong>, 
Jp Calderone <a href="mailto:exarkun#flashmail,com">exarkun#flashmail,com</a>, Mon 07 Jun 1999, 20:08 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00585" HREF="msg00585.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] realism</A></strong>, 
Martin C Sweitzer <a href="mailto:msew+@andrew.cmu.edu">msew+@andrew.cmu.edu</a>, Mon 07 Jun 1999, 22:32 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00556" HREF="msg00556.html">[MUD-Dev] Personalities</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#varesearch,com">claw#varesearch,com</a>, Sun 06 Jun 1999, 23:59 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00551" HREF="msg00551.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: A couple Qs, and thanks</A></strong>, 
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Sun 06 Jun 1999, 20:07 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00542" HREF="msg00542.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Pay Muds &amp; Free Muds - working together, or against  each other?</A></strong>, 
Richard Bartle <a href="mailto:76703.3042#compuserve,com">76703.3042#compuserve,com</a>, Sun 06 Jun 1999, 11:38 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00578" HREF="msg00578.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Pay Muds &amp; Free Muds - working together, or against  each other?</A></strong>, 
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Mon 07 Jun 1999, 19:22 GMT
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