<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design --> <!--X-From-R13: pynjNxnatn.ah --> <!--X-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:52:10 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: E10Z14o-0005mb-00#koala,kanga.nu --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199904171621.KAA01967@ami-cg.GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00078.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00079.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00060.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00064.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00080">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00080">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00080">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:34:14 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:21:21 -0600 Chris Gray <cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA> wrote: > - if your MUD is disk-based rather than memory based, you need > accessor functions to get at things. When you are planning on > thousands of lines of code, its tedious and error prone to have to > write those calls all over the place. Having an in-MUD language > means that the code can be visually simpler, and the compiler > takes care of all of the details. C++ users might be able to > cleanly hide all of that stuff, but that wasn't an option for me. Extrapolating slightly: A sufficiently well developed base library designed to support programming your game world is functionally indistinguishable from a softcode language. > - MUD languages often have security considerations, such as doing > things on function entry. Having an in-MUD language makes this > automatic, rather than manual. ie you can (easily) dictate and enforce a security model without relying on the cooperation of arbitrary later programmers. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#kanga,nu ----------(*) Internet: coder#kanga,nu ...Honorary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00060" HREF="msg00060.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Chris Gray <cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00078.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Blending graphics with text</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00079.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00060.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00064.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00080"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00080"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00088" HREF="msg00088.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></strong>, Petri Virkkula <a href="mailto:pvirkkul#iki,fi">pvirkkul#iki,fi</a>, Mon 19 Apr 1999, 19:47 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00058" HREF="msg00058.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></strong>, Alex Stewart <a href="mailto:riche#crl,com">riche#crl,com</a>, Sat 17 Apr 1999, 04:44 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00065" HREF="msg00065.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></strong>, Jo Dillon <a href="mailto:emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk">emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk</a>, Sat 17 Apr 1999, 16:49 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00060" HREF="msg00060.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sat 17 Apr 1999, 16:31 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00080" HREF="msg00080.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></strong>, claw <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Mon 19 Apr 1999, 07:52 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00064" HREF="msg00064.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></strong>, Felix A. Croes <a href="mailto:felix#dworkin,nl">felix#dworkin,nl</a>, Sat 17 Apr 1999, 16:46 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00067" HREF="msg00067.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Sat 17 Apr 1999, 22:46 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00076" HREF="msg00076.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Sun 18 Apr 1999, 17:13 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00092" HREF="msg00092.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual machine design</A></strong>, Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt <a href="mailto:hhs#cbs,dtu.dk">hhs#cbs,dtu.dk</a>, Tue 20 Apr 1999, 06:24 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>