<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Text Parsing --> <!--X-From-R13: Qnyvona Fverfvnf Rnexybpx <pnyvonaNqnexybpx.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:26:01 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 4.1.19990609221530.00c47620#pop,darklock.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: caliban#darklock,com --> <!--X-Reference: 4.1.19990609211207.00c3b100#pop,darklock.com --> <!--X-Reference: E10rx1i-0004T7-00#koala,kanga.nu --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Text Parsing</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00675.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00677.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00674.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00697.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00676">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00676">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00676">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Text Parsing</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Text Parsing </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Caliban Tiresias Darklock <<A HREF="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 22:19:19 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On 10:05 PM 6/9/99 -0700, I personally witnessed claw#kanga,nu jumping up to say: >On Wed, 09 Jun 1999 21:25:51 -0700 >Caliban Tiresias Darklock <caliban#darklock,com> wrote: > >> Nobody *likes* to fail. It's okay if your game is hard and takes >> time, but it's *not* okay if the user is expected to fail >> repeatedly in the process of learning it. > >A lot of the, err, failure of failure can be mitigated if every time >the player fails, it is reasonably obvious to him that if he only >did XXX or YYY differently next time he'd have a decent chance of >coming out a winner. I'd also add the caveat that the failure needs to be small enough to allow getting back onto your feet without much trouble. CR's in Diku derivatives are a good example; if you wander into an area you can't handle, and you get killed trying to get out because you're lost, not only are you unable to easily find your corpse -- you're in no condition to even go looking for it. As a result, I tend to consider helping people with CRs to be among the noblest things you can do, provided you don't request some outrageous payment. ;) ----- | Caliban Tiresias Darklock caliban#darklock,com | Darklock Communications <A HREF="http://www.darklock.com/">http://www.darklock.com/</A> | U L T I M A T E U N I V E R S E I S N O T D E A D | 774577496C6C6E457645727355626D4974H -=CABAL::3146=- _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00697" HREF="msg00697.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Text Parsing</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Greg Miller <gmiller#classic-games,com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00671" HREF="msg00671.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Text Parsing</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Caliban Tiresias Darklock <caliban#darklock,com></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00674" HREF="msg00674.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Text Parsing</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> claw#kanga,nu</LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00675.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Game Economies</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00677.html">[MUD-Dev] Client-Server vs. Peer-to-Peer -- Implementing DIS on the Internet</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00674.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Text Parsing</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00697.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Text Parsing</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00676"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00676"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Text Parsing</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00641" HREF="msg00641.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Text Parsing</A></strong>, Greg Miller <a href="mailto:gmiller#classic-games,com">gmiller#classic-games,com</a>, Wed 09 Jun 1999, 22:35 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00668" HREF="msg00668.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Text Parsing</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#varesearch,com">claw#varesearch,com</a>, Thu 10 Jun 1999, 03:54 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00671" HREF="msg00671.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Text Parsing</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 10 Jun 1999, 04:31 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00674" HREF="msg00674.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Text Parsing</A></strong>, claw <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Thu 10 Jun 1999, 05:05 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00676" HREF="msg00676.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Text Parsing</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 10 Jun 1999, 05:26 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00697" HREF="msg00697.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Text Parsing</A></strong>, Greg Miller <a href="mailto:gmiller#classic-games,com">gmiller#classic-games,com</a>, Thu 10 Jun 1999, 15:27 GMT </LI> </LI> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00685" HREF="msg00685.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Text Parsing</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 10 Jun 1999, 07:14 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00471" HREF="msg00471.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Text Parsing</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Fri 04 Jun 1999, 03:25 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00479" HREF="msg00479.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Text Parsing</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Fri 04 Jun 1999, 14:24 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>