<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation? --> <!--X-From-R13: Znhery Tna <ys25+Nnaqerj.pzh.rqh> --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:57:20 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: orZA03O00UwH15s2k0#andrew,cmu.edu --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 01BED219.BAB08AE0.charles.hughes#bigfoot,com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:lf25+@andrew.cmu.edu"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00950.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00952.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00940.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00944.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00951">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00951">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00951">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Laurel Fan <<A HREF="mailto:lf25%2B#andrew,cmu.edu">lf25+@andrew.cmu.edu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:29:23 -0400 (EDT)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Excerpts from muddev: 19-Jul-99 RE: [MUD-Dev] Containing au.. by Charles Hughes#bigfoot,c > and scarcity. If a bot is continually buying material and creating a good > then the material will start to increase in value as it gets consumed, > and the good will decrease in value as it becomes more available. Eventually, > it will cost more to produce the good than the good can be sold for, and/or > the materials to create the good will no longer be available. However, this doesn't fix the problem... the bot can continue to buy/create/sell until it figures out that it impossible/undesirable to do so. Since there is essentially no cost to produce these items (because time is presumably the only cost, and a bot takes up no "human" time (well, actually, not quite, if there are other bott-able activities that are potentially higher value, but presumably these would be higher value for non-bots as well.)), the best strategy for a bot is to do this. This also punishes non-botting players, nt only because their "costs" are higher, but further because the bot will essentially have ruined a sector of the economy, encouraging these players to write competing bots or to give up on trade goods. _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00940" HREF="msg00940.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Charles Hughes <charles.hughes#bigfoot,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00950.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00952.html">[MUD-Dev] UO currency</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00940.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00944.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00951"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00951"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>RE: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00942" HREF="msg00942.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Tue 20 Jul 1999, 00:25 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00956" HREF="msg00956.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>, Timothy O'Neill Dang <a href="mailto:timothy#nmia,com">timothy#nmia,com</a>, Tue 20 Jul 1999, 20:33 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00961" HREF="msg00961.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Tue 20 Jul 1999, 22:27 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00940" HREF="msg00940.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>, Charles Hughes <a href="mailto:charles.hughes#bigfoot,com">charles.hughes#bigfoot,com</a>, Tue 20 Jul 1999, 00:25 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00951" HREF="msg00951.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>, Laurel Fan <a href="mailto:lf25+@andrew.cmu.edu">lf25+@andrew.cmu.edu</a>, Tue 20 Jul 1999, 18:57 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00944" HREF="msg00944.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 20 Jul 1999, 14:38 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00948" HREF="msg00948.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>, Asmodeus <a href="mailto:asmodeus#benshaw,com">asmodeus#benshaw,com</a>, Tue 20 Jul 1999, 18:56 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00953" HREF="msg00953.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>, Greg Miller <a href="mailto:gmiller#classic-games,com">gmiller#classic-games,com</a>, Tue 20 Jul 1999, 20:32 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00965" HREF="msg00965.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Containing automation?</A></strong>, Travis S. Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</a>, Tue 20 Jul 1999, 22:28 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>