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<LI><em>From</em>: Caliban Tiresias Darklock <<A HREF="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 15:48:07 -0700</LI>
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On 02:19 PM 4/9/99 +0200, I personally witnessed Hans-Henrik Staerfeldt
jumping up to say:
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>A con to this, is that players could
>write translators to automatically translate the text once the algorithm
>is 'hacked'.
I tend to think that the ability to partially "hack" the language -- since
less than half of the alphabet was used in the example, translating it into
anything really legible would be a big chore -- is a *pro*. I like skills
to exist with the player instead of the character. Most MUDs make all the
knowledge (except familiarity with the game world) a quality of the
character, so in the event of death, you lose everything. I prefer that the
character be less important to continuing the game with a different
persona. Stats shouldn't be as important as they are today. Permitting some
level of hacking tends to make some portion of your player base think
harder, and that's a good thing.
>the better the character is at understanding the language, the more
>whole words are written in plain. The seed for which words are plain
>should be playe dependant, and should depend on word size. What i propose
>is that the rest is simply exchanged with '.'.
This is a good when you have a range of skill, but doesn't do much of
anything for someone without the skill... and if you have a boolean
"speaks/doesn't speak" setting, it's completely worthless.
>If you wanted to put some 'colour' on this, you should make a 'common
>mistake' table for each language where words are written up that have
>'special' meaning, or for some reason or are assumed to sound alike
>phonetically (in the language), or wording having meaning other than the
>litteral translation.
That would be really, really hard to automate. Dialect and idiom really
ought to be handled by the player in a roleplaying context.
>Ofcause
I'm sorry, I have to ask... do you mean "of course", as in "obviously"? Is
this an ironic comment on the process of speaking in different languages? ;)
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00018" HREF="msg00018.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] In-Game Languages</A></strong>,
Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Wed 07 Apr 1999, 03:18 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00020" HREF="msg00020.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] In-Game Languages</A></strong>,
Mik Clarke <a href="mailto:mikclrk#ibm,net">mikclrk#ibm,net</a>, Wed 07 Apr 1999, 06:10 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00023" HREF="msg00023.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] In-Game Languages</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00032" HREF="msg00032.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] In-Game Languages</A></strong>,
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Sat 10 Apr 1999, 04:25 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00043" HREF="msg00043.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] In-Game Languages</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00003" HREF="msg00003.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] In-Game Languages</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00005" HREF="msg00005.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] In-Game Languages</A></strong>,
Matthew D. Fuller <a href="mailto:fullermd#futuresouth,com">fullermd#futuresouth,com</a>, Mon 05 Apr 1999, 01:26 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00019" HREF="msg00019.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] In-Game Languages</A></strong>,
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