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<H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Multi-threaded mud server.</H1>
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<LI><em>From</em>: Jo Dillon &lt;<A HREF="mailto:emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk">emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk</A>&gt;</LI>
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Jon A. Lambert (jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com) spake thusly:
&gt; Here's a common example:
&gt;  
&gt; There exists a 400 mhz Pentium II single-processor with 64 Mb of memory 
&gt; running Redhat Linux.  Running on the server is ftpd, httpd, telnetd,
&gt; smptd, dns, a stock Diku mud server, a DGD LP mud server, and a ColdMUD 
&gt; server.  The server is probably underloaded.   
&gt; 
&gt; Is there context switching going on here?  YES! Loads and loads of the 
&gt; "expensive" process-level context switching.  
&gt; 
&gt; &lt;rant&gt;
&gt; Now suppose I wish to redesign and multi-thread that Diku mud server.  
&gt; Why would I WORRY about the overhead of "cheaper" thread-level context 
&gt; switching?
&gt; Why should I CARE at the application-level how many processors are 
&gt; present on the friggin box!?!@#!??
&gt; &lt;/rant&gt;
&gt; 

  Isn't the point that every time you context switch you invalidate the
cache (since the new thread of execution will be in a different chunk of
memory to the old one), and therefore if you have more threads than 
processors you context-switch &lt;bignum&gt; times a second, therefore constantly 
invalidating your cache and giving yourself a big speed hit?

-- 
	Jo





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<LI><strong><A NAME="00284" HREF="msg00284.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Multi-threaded mud server.</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 17 May 1999, 15:46 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00294" HREF="msg00294.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Multi-threaded mud server.</A></strong>, 
Ross Nicoll <a href="mailto:rnicoll#lostics,demon.co.uk">rnicoll#lostics,demon.co.uk</a>, Tue 18 May 1999, 06:42 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00283" HREF="msg00283.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Multi-threaded mud server.</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 17 May 1999, 15:45 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00301" HREF="msg00301.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Multi-threaded mud server.</A></strong>, 
Mik Clarke <a href="mailto:mikclrk#ibm,net">mikclrk#ibm,net</a>, Tue 18 May 1999, 07:01 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00302" HREF="msg00302.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Multi-threaded mud server.</A></strong>, 
Jo Dillon <a href="mailto:emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk">emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk</a>, Tue 18 May 1999, 07:02 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00308" HREF="msg00308.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Multi-threaded mud server.</A></strong>, 
Travis S. Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</a>, Wed 19 May 1999, 04:47 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00315" HREF="msg00315.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Multi-threaded mud server.</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 20 May 1999, 05:20 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00337" HREF="msg00337.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Multi-threaded mud server.</A></strong>, 
Ross Nicoll <a href="mailto:rnicoll#lostics,demon.co.uk">rnicoll#lostics,demon.co.uk</a>, Fri 28 May 1999, 21:03 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00352" HREF="msg00352.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Multi-threaded mud server.</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sun 30 May 1999, 04:45 GMT
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