<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: RE: [MUD-Dev] Censorship & Its Impact On World Immersion --> <!--X-From-R13: [nggurj [vunyl <qvnoybNorfg.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 13:55:41 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.BSF.4.10.9905011354050.3569-100000#shell9,ba.best.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 000201be932c$1d5052c0$f90030ce@amd400 --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, RE: [MUD-Dev] Censorship & Its Impact On World Immersion</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:diablo#best,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00117.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00119.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00113.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00128.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00118">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00118">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00118">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>RE: [MUD-Dev] Censorship & Its Impact On World Immersion</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: RE: [MUD-Dev] Censorship & Its Impact On World Immersion</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Matthew Mihaly <<A HREF="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 1 May 1999 13:55:23 -0700 (PDT)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu">mud-dev-admin#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Greg Munt wrote: > > [Matthew Mihaly] > > > > I'm not a fan of censorship, but freedom of speech issues don't come into > > play here in legal terms. Just as in my house I can toss you out for > > whatever I want, in my game, I can toss you out for whatever I want, or > > gag you in whatever way I want. Players don't own their characters, the > > owners of the game do, and whatever they choose to do to that character is > > up to them (I'm speaking of free games here. A pay game would probably be > > considered a bit differently in terms of character ownership, but not in > > terms of the freedom of speech issue). > > The legality of this issue is irrelevant, as far as I am concerned. In the > same way that "The law is an ass", legal activity is not neccessarily > 'right'. There are two sides to this whole censorship thing: That's a fairly naive view of things. You don't exist in a vacuum and 'right' is a meaningless term without the power to back it up. The law has the power, and if it decides you are wrong, there isn't much you can do about it. --matt _______________________________________________ MUD-Dev maillist - MUD-Dev#kanga,nu <A HREF="http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev">http://www.kanga.nu/lists/listinfo/mud-dev</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00128" HREF="msg00128.html">[MUD-Dev] OT: Ethics v Law</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> "Greg Munt" <greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00113" HREF="msg00113.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Censorship & Its Impact On World Immersion</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Greg Munt" <greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00117.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Censorship, Virtual v Artificial Worlds, Python</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00119.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Python</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00113.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Censorship & Its Impact On World Immersion</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00128.html">[MUD-Dev] OT: Ethics v Law</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00118"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00118"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Censorship</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00105" HREF="msg00105.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Censorship</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Thu 29 Apr 1999, 06:40 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00106" HREF="msg00106.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Censorship</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Thu 29 Apr 1999, 22:05 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00108" HREF="msg00108.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Censorship</A></strong>, Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Fri 30 Apr 1999, 06:49 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00113" HREF="msg00113.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Censorship & Its Impact On World Immersion</A></strong>, Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Sat 01 May 1999, 19:55 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00118" HREF="msg00118.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Censorship & Its Impact On World Immersion</A></strong>, Matthew Mihaly <a href="mailto:diablo#best,com">diablo#best,com</a>, Sat 01 May 1999, 20:55 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00128" HREF="msg00128.html">[MUD-Dev] OT: Ethics v Law</A></strong>, Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Mon 03 May 1999, 16:31 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00107" HREF="msg00107.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Censorship</A></strong>, Darren Henderson <a href="mailto:darren#jasper,somtel.com">darren#jasper,somtel.com</a>, Thu 29 Apr 1999, 22:06 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00116" HREF="msg00116.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Censorship</A></strong>, Quzah [softhome] <a href="mailto:quzah#softhome,net">quzah#softhome,net</a>, Sat 01 May 1999, 20:03 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00109" HREF="msg00109.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Censorship, Virtual v Artificial Worlds, Python</A></strong>, Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Fri 30 Apr 1999, 06:49 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>