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<LI><em>From</em>: Matthew Mihaly <<A HREF="mailto:sarapis#achaea,com">sarapis#achaea,com</A>></LI>
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At 10:39 AM 6/7/99 +0200, you wrote:
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>Matthew Mihaly <diablo#best,com> writes:
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>> Thoughts on the nature of realism in MUDs.
>>
>> A few people have mentioned 'realism' as if MUDs need to be a simulation
>> of some artificial reality, complete with consistency, etc. I would argue
>> that this is not only necessary, but that it is impossible. True
>> consistency would concist
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>Hmm, let's answer just to the partial message.
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>While MUD doesn't HAVE to be artificial reality, complete and
>consistent, I will only play it if I perceive it as such - or unless
>its combat is filled with suspense. And since I play quite a
>few... combatless MUSHes and MOOs, I claim that the goal is attainable
>(I said that the MUD has to be perceived as 'real', not 'real' in any
>objective sense of the word).
Right, you will only play it if you perceive it as such. I fully recognize
that there are many people out there who will only play a game that is
perceived as some sort of reality, and, in fact, I might fall into that
group (it's only the combat part of Achaea that I sort of view out of role,
though I think all but the best combatants probably view it in-role). Why
not look at a MUD as a game rather than a world though? Chess or Go are
games, for isntance, and don't try to establish alternative worlds.
>
>On a different thread, I'd rate Achaea's combat system at about 0.2
>BattleTechs (seach Mudconnector for BattleTech 3065 or BT 3030 to find
>out what I'm talking about). :)
Well, that's wonderful, but having never really used Achaea's combat system
(I'd recognize your name if you were good with it), I'd have to say your
opinion on the matter is rather ill-informed.
--matt
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<LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Gender and Mud Development</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00758" HREF="msg00758.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Gender and Mud Development</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00775" HREF="msg00775.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Gender and Mud Development</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00582" HREF="msg00582.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] realism</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00568" HREF="msg00568.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] realism</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00580" HREF="msg00580.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] realism</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00614" HREF="msg00614.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] realism</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00589" HREF="msg00589.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] realism</A></strong>,
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