<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistant storage.... My current idea. --> <!--X-From-R13: Pra Uerrne <terrneNploreuvtujnl.arg> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 00:50:37 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.LNX.3.96.980407174346.3436A-100000#shamen,cyberhighway.net --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199804071656.JAA71679#under,engr.sgi.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistant storage.... My current idea.</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00062.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00064.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00049.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00011.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00063">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00063">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00063">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistant storage.... My current idea.</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistant storage.... My current idea. </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Ben Greear <<A HREF="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:49:35 -0700 (MST)</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, J C Lawrence wrote: > > Ummm, not sure I understand this. It makes no sense to me. My idea > > is thus: You have a space ship, with cargo, and various objects on > > board. You go through a 'gate' to another server (solar system). > > Every object within the ship leaves the previous one and joins the > > latter. The java classes of course do not move, and in fact are > > found on ever server. > > You are going to require that the class heirarchy on all servers match > perfectly? If you don't then you have the problem of an object > attempting to move to a server which may not have an indentical > supporting class heirarchy. This is what I plan to shoot for, but the basic communication between client and server will be well defined, and open, packets. I will build classes that will automatically encode themselves into these packets, and decode the packets into themselves, but there is nothing to stop someone from writing their own... > Are you preapared to require that all descendants of a class must be > compliant with the latest version of that class, or are you going to > have some sort of class versioning where instances are bound to a > particular version of a defined class? This will be pretty nasty for sure. Every mobile object will have a version integer, and I'll be able to check with that. However, I hope to have a better, more automatic system in place.... Haven't thought about it too much yet..but auto-downloading .class files is not out of the question.. Probably could work some magic with the ClassLoader or something... > Note that all cable modems are not equal. Some use the cable fdor > down trafic only, with a standard asynch modem for the up-traffic. > Others are bidirectional on the cable, but are also massively > asymetrical (I've seen as high as a 20:1 ratio between in and out > bandwidth). Lastly, for the bidirectional modems, in almost all cases > you share your bandwidth with the other subscribers on the local loop, > and some cable companies have been known to be stupid enough to use a > /16 subnet... > > Cable modems are not necessarily that great. Check your local > providers implementation. Looks like both ADSL and the cable folks won't be here for a while. The telco says call back in a month..the cable guy said check back 3Q98. Musta moved to the wrong block :P Ben Greear (greear#cyberhighway,net) <A HREF="http://www.primenet.com/~greear">http://www.primenet.com/~greear</A> Author of ScryMUD: mud.primenet.com 4444 <A HREF="http://www.primenet.com/~greear/ScryMUD/scry.html">http://www.primenet.com/~greear/ScryMUD/scry.html</A> </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00049" HREF="msg00049.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistant storage.... 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My current idea.</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00009" HREF="msg00009.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistant storage.... My current idea.</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Fri 03 Apr 1998, 09:11 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00010" HREF="msg00010.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistant storage.... My current idea.</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 03 Apr 1998, 17:57 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00013" HREF="msg00013.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistant storage.... My current idea.</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Sat 04 Apr 1998, 01:32 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00049" HREF="msg00049.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistant storage.... My current idea.</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 07 Apr 1998, 16:56 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00063" HREF="msg00063.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistant storage.... My current idea.</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Wed 08 Apr 1998, 00:50 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00011" HREF="msg00011.html">[MUD-Dev] Persistant storage.... My current idea.</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 03 Apr 1998, 23:42 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00012" HREF="msg00012.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistant storage.... My current idea.</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Sat 04 Apr 1998, 00:04 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00018" HREF="msg00018.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistant storage.... My current idea.</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sat 04 Apr 1998, 23:21 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00019" HREF="msg00019.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistant storage.... My current idea.</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sat 04 Apr 1998, 23:21 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>