<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: skill system --> <!--X-From-R13: "Oaqerj Q.[. 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McClintock" <<A HREF="mailto:andrewm#tiger,hsc.edu">andrewm#tiger,hsc.edu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 29 May 1998 06:00:24 -0400</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Jo Dillon <emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk> wrote: >Andrew C.M. McClintock (andrewm#tiger,hsc.edu) spake thusly: >> I've been mulling over some ideas for the skill system in my mud (at >> this stage still no more than a fantastical whimsy) and thought I >> would bounce the ideas off the list. >> >> For each skill there would be: >> >> Knowledge (book learning/education) - > >[snip] > >> Practical application (experience) - > >[more snip] > > Presumably you would want to limit the influence of book learning >over practical application for some skills; trying to learn swordfighting >from a book would likely not get you very far, the only way to learn it would >be by practical experience (or would tuition by a fencing master go under >education? It seems more logical to me to use the same mechanism for >a fencing master's training bouts as for real fights). Rather than >using book learning to set the maximum you can learn by actual practise, >I'd probably have a default maximum value for each skill which would exist >without book learning, and then allow book learning to give you a small >amount of practical skill (depending on the skill in question) and raise >that maximum by certain amount (again depending on the skill in question). >So for instance, swordfighting would have a high maximum, and learning >from a book would give minimal practical experience and wouldn't raise >that maximum. Alchemy, on the other hand, would have a very low initial >maximum, and book learning would raise actual experience and maximum >experience by large amounts. > > Jo > I was actually intending 'book-learning' to be more all-encompassing than just knowledge gleaned from reading books-- this would include lessons taught by sword-masters, and knowledge passed down from generation to generation by word of mouth. The practical experience would be simply how much real life use the player had made of that knowledge--you have to have been shown a move before you can learn the move. Practicing that move would add practical experience, and using that move in combat would add even more. I still there there is a distinction between knowledge and application, no matter how thin the dividing line in some skills. I think the distinction would then come from how much 'knowledge' will affect training - reading alot about sword fighting might teach me the theories involved, but it will do little towards helping gain practical experience. Alchemy would be a less involved skill in many ways, so reading about it would enable quicker practical application (though learning alchemy would be many times tougher than learning a fencing manuever). Thus the balance for skills would be time-to-learn vs. time-to-master (what you have learned). -Andrew >-- >MUD-Dev: Advancing an unrealised future. Andrew C.M. McClintock andrew#moonstar,com andrewm#mail,hsc.edu </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00846" HREF="msg00846.html">[MUD-Dev] skill system</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Andrew C.M. McClintock" <andrewm#tiger,hsc.edu></LI></UL></LI> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00849" HREF="msg00849.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Jo Dillon <emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00849.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00851.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00849.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00851.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00850"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00850"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: Nested coorindate space model</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00862" HREF="msg00862.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Nested coorindate space model</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 03 Jun 1998, 02:29 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00897" HREF="msg00897.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Nested coorindate space model</A></strong>, Jason Goodwin <a href="mailto:wgoodwin#iquest,net">wgoodwin#iquest,net</a>, Sat 06 Jun 1998, 19:20 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00846" HREF="msg00846.html">[MUD-Dev] skill system</A></strong>, Andrew C.M. McClintock <a href="mailto:andrewm#tiger,hsc.edu">andrewm#tiger,hsc.edu</a>, Thu 28 May 1998, 12:15 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00849" HREF="msg00849.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</A></strong>, Jo Dillon <a href="mailto:emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk">emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk</a>, Fri 29 May 1998, 09:12 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00850" HREF="msg00850.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</A></strong>, Andrew C.M. McClintock <a href="mailto:andrewm#tiger,hsc.edu">andrewm#tiger,hsc.edu</a>, Fri 29 May 1998, 10:05 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00851" HREF="msg00851.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Fri 29 May 1998, 19:24 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00857" HREF="msg00857.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Mon 01 Jun 1998, 14:56 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00861" HREF="msg00861.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 03 Jun 1998, 02:13 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00865" HREF="msg00865.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Wed 03 Jun 1998, 03:38 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>