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<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: skill system </LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: "Jon A. Lambert" <<A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 23:36:32 -5</LI>
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On 2 Jun 98, J C Lawrence wrote:
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> b) What skill set do I need to likely accomplish XXX?
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> Question: Is this level of skill web inter-connect valuable in a
> game?
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> #B additionally allows a more insidious form of predictive play than
> #A. A player can now pre-determine his character-path in terms of
> goals, find out what each goal requires in terms of skills, and from
> there chart a mechanical course to wend the game to the various
> inflection points of the requisite skill levels.
>
Exactly. Take Sid Meir's Civilization for instance. The knowledge
advancement tree is virtually identical to a skill tree. It even
includes the unit/building capabilties upon achieve an advancement. I
populated an MS-Project worksheet with the data and was easily able
to compute the shortest possible paths to Gunpowder, to Nuclear
weapons, to victory in the Space Game, etc.
I think exposing a skill tree along with the requirements to achieve
certain goals is generally a bad idea. Of course I do prefer fuzzy
goals or goals that dynamically change. Generally I think the only
player-types who would be upset by this are your game-only
players. Perhaps this is the source of the discontent with the
hardwired class/skill systems, "I don't want to pick class A because
I will not be able to do Y, yet if I pick class B, I can't do Z." or
more typically, "If I had known class A couldn't do X around 1000
hours or 50 levels ago, I wouldn't have picked class A".
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00850" HREF="msg00850.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</A></strong>,
Andrew C.M. McClintock <a href="mailto:andrewm#tiger,hsc.edu">andrewm#tiger,hsc.edu</a>, Fri 29 May 1998, 10:05 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00851" HREF="msg00851.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</A></strong>,
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Fri 29 May 1998, 19:24 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00857" HREF="msg00857.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</A></strong>,
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Mon 01 Jun 1998, 14:56 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00861" HREF="msg00861.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 03 Jun 1998, 02:13 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00865" HREF="msg00865.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: skill system</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Wed 03 Jun 1998, 03:38 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00930" HREF="msg00930.html">[MUD-Dev] Off topic! But please help</A></strong>,
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Wed 10 Jun 1998, 17:58 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00933" HREF="msg00933.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Off topic! But please help</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00843" HREF="msg00843.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Combat Was Re: Leaving characters in play</A></strong>,
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