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<LI><em>From</em>: "John Bertoglio" &lt;<A HREF="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com">alexb#internetcds,com</A>&gt;</LI>
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From: s001gmu#nova,wright.edu &lt;s001gmu#nova,wright.edu&gt;
To: mud-dev#kanga,nu &lt;mud-dev#kanga,nu&gt;
Date: Wednesday, May 20, 1998 10:46 PM


&gt;
&gt;
&gt;On Mon, 18 May 1998, John Bertoglio wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt; From: Koster, Raph &lt;rkoster#origin,ea.com&gt;
&gt;&gt; To: 'mud-dev#kanga,nu' &lt;mud-dev#kanga,nu&gt;
&gt;&gt; Date: Monday, May 18, 1998 11:01 AM
&gt;
&gt;[...]
&gt;
&gt;&gt; &gt;I think in terms of three things when considering measures against the
&gt;&gt; &gt;PKs in a game: who determines who is a bad guy; who catches the bad
guy;
&gt;&gt; &gt;who punishes the bad guy. In an ideal (virtual) world, I wish the
answer
&gt;&gt; &gt;were "the players" to all three. But I am settling for "the players"
for
&gt;&gt; &gt;the first two. To my mind, a playerkilling toggle model puts none of
the
&gt;&gt; &gt;burden on the players at all, and that's a bad route to go down
&gt;&gt; &gt;admin-wise.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; It looks to me like the server flags #1 and the players take care of #2
and
&gt;&gt; #3. Which is proper since only the server can make an impartial
ajudication
&gt;&gt; of events. Allowing players to control #1 puts to much power in the
hands
&gt;&gt; of cliques. No doubt, lynching would become a common practice.
&gt;
&gt;And this is a Bad Thing(tm)?
&gt;


Good point. What I meant was having the server set the criteria for
"generic badness" as opposed to judgement calls by human GMs. Players on
muds and UO already have the power to judge and then execute other players.
With the guild war patch coming into UO it will be tense for a while as all
kinds of interesting nasty behavior will become possible.

John Bertoglio

&gt;-Greg
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00734" HREF="msg00734.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 20 May 1998, 18:46 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00673" HREF="msg00673.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong>, 
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Mon 18 May 1998, 22:56 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00682" HREF="msg00682.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong>, 
John Bertoglio <a href="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com">alexb#internetcds,com</a>, Tue 19 May 1998, 02:51 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00742" HREF="msg00742.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong>, 
s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Thu 21 May 1998, 05:33 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00743" HREF="msg00743.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong>, 
John Bertoglio <a href="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com">alexb#internetcds,com</a>, Thu 21 May 1998, 05:59 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00748" HREF="msg00748.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong>, 
John Bertoglio <a href="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com">alexb#internetcds,com</a>, Thu 21 May 1998, 09:56 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00749" HREF="msg00749.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong>, 
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Thu 21 May 1998, 14:23 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00752" HREF="msg00752.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong>, 
s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Thu 21 May 1998, 14:58 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00751" HREF="msg00751.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong>, 
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Thu 21 May 1998, 14:40 GMT
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