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<PRE>
'Twould seem relevant to the current PK rehash.
From: Richard Woolcock <KaVir#dial,pipex.comNOSPAM>
Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.diku,rec.games.mud.lp,rec.games.mud.admin,rec.games.mud.tiny
Subject: MOB or player? Re: Global Communications on Muds
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 20:28:13 -0700
Arlie Stephens wrote:
>
[snip]
> I also like my fellow players to be friendly. I don't want a world that
> pits me against them, whether because some of us are "evil" or because of
> some built in "war" or clan system. If that were my game, I'd log into
> a straight PK mud.
[snip]
> As for "mindless killing" ... there's a big difference between diku-classic
> (yawn) and interesting "mobs" that actually fight intelligently, react to
> players, etc.. It's not "mindless" when I have to figure out how to kill
> this particular individual NPC, and he summons friends, remembers my
> habits of killing in his area (and reacts appropriately), and of course
> behaves differently depending on his configuration.
[snip]
I am curious about your distinction between player and mob...which of the
following would you fight?
* Boffo the exp mob. He repops, people kill him, he repops, people kill
him. *yawn*.
* Boffo the tough mob. He's just a normal mob, but with lots of hp, hit
and dam. Average fight takes several hours. *yawn*.
* Boffo the smart mob. He'll fight back, he'll come after you if you flee,
he'll kill your friends, steal your equipment, and torture your pet cat.
If you don't find him first, he'll be sure to find you.
* Boffo the really smart mob. He's programmed with complex AI, allowing
him to respond to basic stuff like a player would. He'll be nice to you
if you're nice to him.
* Boffo the imm-controlled mob. He's just a regular mob, except that one
of the imms has decided to switch into him. Now Boffo acts the same as
any player would.
* Bubba the newbie player. He is trying to find his way around mud school,
and isn't bothering anyone. You know you could easily beat him.
* Bubba the average player. He is wandering around, killing stuff. You
could probably beat him without much difficulty.
* Bubba the obnoxious player. He is shouting abusive stuff, and stealing
your kills. You could probably beat him.
* Bubba the mighty. He's mean, tough, and he's got a great sword that you
want. It would require all of your skill to beat him, but you know the
perfect trap to set.
* Bubba the afk/linkdead. You could kill him and he'd never even know it
was you! Good chance to restock your healing potions, too.
* Bubba the trigger bot. He's just wandering around, casting spells and
killing stuff. Laziness deserves punishment, and who better than you to
carry out the punishment?
Now imagine an introduction system, so mobs and players look the same.
Imagine that players don't necessarily appear on the who list, and that
dead mobs don't come back (instead, the mud spawns new types of mob).
Is that goblin standing in the room a linkdead player, or just a regular
mob? Is the dwarf charging around town a spec_prog or a bot? Was that
guy you grouped with earlier really a player, or was it the imp's new AI
mob?
You said you enjoy killing clever mobs, but not killing players. My
question to you is: Why?
KaVir.
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<LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: PK and my "Mobless MUD" idea</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00816" HREF="msg00816.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PK and my "Mobless MUD" idea</A></strong>,
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Sun 24 May 1998, 13:10 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00824" HREF="msg00824.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PK and my "Mobless MUD" idea</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Mon 25 May 1998, 05:55 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00827" HREF="msg00827.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PK and my "Mobless MUD" idea</A></strong>,
Alex Oren <a href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</a>, Mon 25 May 1998, 09:25 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00219" HREF="msg00219.html">[MUD-Dev] (fwd) Confusing?</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 29 Apr 1998, 00:07 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00218" HREF="msg00218.html">[MUD-Dev] (fwd) MOB or player? Re: Global Communications on Muds</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 29 Apr 1998, 00:05 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00217" HREF="msg00217.html">[MUD-Dev] META: Membership authentication</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 28 Apr 1998, 23:45 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00791" HREF="msg00791.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PK's: A solution?</A></strong>,
John Bertoglio <a href="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com">alexb#internetcds,com</a>, Tue 28 Apr 1998, 11:10 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00794" HREF="msg00794.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PK's: A solution?</A></strong>,
Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Tue 28 Apr 1998, 20:18 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00793" HREF="msg00793.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PK's: A solution?</A></strong>,
Michael Hohensee <a href="mailto:michael#sparta,mainstream.net">michael#sparta,mainstream.net</a>, Tue 28 Apr 1998, 23:29 GMT
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