<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: [Fwd: Warfare on retromud.org 3000] --> <!--X-From-R13: Quevf Uenl <ptNnzv-pt.UenlEntr.Sqzbagba.OP.QO> --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 21:54:08 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199806170407.WAA01381@ami-cg.GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: [Fwd: Warfare on retromud.org 3000]</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01100.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01102.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01109.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01096.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01101">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01101">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01101">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: [Fwd: Warfare on retromud.org 3000]</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: [Fwd: Warfare on retromud.org 3000]</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Chris Gray <<A HREF="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 22:07:25 -0600</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> [Richard Woolcock/Talien Radisgad:] >I'm investigating the implementation of a war system on our MUD >(retromud.org 3000) and I was curious how many other MUDs have >taken gaming to this level. That is, do the folks who hack dragons >up (or try) and jealously guard their castles find the prospect of >waging wars with armies over large terrain an appealing concept or >just a nuisance? Have you ever played the on-line game 'Empire'? It's gone through several versions over the years, from the original Peter Langston version through the BSD versions, to whatever it is now. The balance of using large armies, resources, terrain, etc. got worked out fairly well, and the game was (is?) quite popular. I've thought of mixing something like that into a MUD, but its been very low on the priorities. Some Empire games I've been in had a bit of RP via the in-game public newspapers, but the nature of the game prevented more. Perhaps there is room for a merge of Empire with MUDs? The mechanics could get interesting - you start with the two sets of rules, that basically cover the two ends of the spectrum, and try to find something in the middle. Can a player be happy not running an army, knowing that others are running armies? How do you deal with players not following orders from those higher up in the chain of command? How do you present the world to the player? Two different modes - one the normal text interface, and one the various mapping and information commands in Empire? Perhaps the trick would be to start with one game (e.g. the MUD), and slowly start adding stuff from Empire, and see how it goes. -- Chris Gray cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01100.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: OT: Announcement</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01102.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Is worse better?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01109.html">[MUD-Dev] ADMIN: OS Wars</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01096.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Mozilla: unity of interface</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01101"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01101"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: Prescience Rules?</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="01139" HREF="msg01139.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Prescience Rules?</A></strong>, Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Fri 19 Jun 1998, 16:16 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01143" HREF="msg01143.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Prescience Rules?</A></strong>, Nathan F Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Fri 19 Jun 1998, 18:45 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="01122" HREF="msg01122.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Prescience Rules?</A></strong>, Joel Kelso <a href="mailto:joel#ee,uwa.edu.au">joel#ee,uwa.edu.au</a>, Thu 18 Jun 1998, 01:42 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01109" HREF="msg01109.html">[MUD-Dev] ADMIN: OS Wars</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#kanga,nu">claw#kanga,nu</a>, Wed 17 Jun 1998, 15:44 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01101" HREF="msg01101.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [Fwd: Warfare on retromud.org 3000]</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Wed 17 Jun 1998, 04:54 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01096" HREF="msg01096.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Mozilla: unity of interface</A></strong>, John Bertoglio <a href="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com">alexb#internetcds,com</a>, Wed 17 Jun 1998, 03:15 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01085" HREF="msg01085.html">[MUD-Dev] Mozilla: unity of interface</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 16 Jun 1998, 21:40 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01083" HREF="msg01083.html">[MUD-Dev] Is worse better?</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 16 Jun 1998, 20:47 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01084" HREF="msg01084.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Is worse better?</A></strong>, Katrina McClelan <a href="mailto:kitkat#the486,bradley.edu">kitkat#the486,bradley.edu</a>, Tue 16 Jun 1998, 21:25 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>