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<LI><em>From</em>: Cimri <<A HREF="mailto:cimri1#gte,net">cimri1#gte,net</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:04:31 -0700</LI>
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Holly,
Welcome to the sooper sekrit eeeeleeeetisst list!
Jay // Cimri
Holly Sommer wrote:
>
> On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Ben Greear wrote:
>
> > > >Is Holly on here? She has been around for years and remained
> > > >relatively sane :)
>
> It is slowly slipping away. Maybe refuge and a place to speak on
> meaningful topics w/o degenerating into flames will help. I hope so.
>
> > > Nope. She's knew to me. If you think she'd be a good list member, then
> > > invite her!
>
> JC: I've seen your sig a few times. Mostly, my past posting habits have
> seen me nesting in rgmd... but the newsfeed I have at work allows me to
> infiltrate rgma alot more frequently now, too :)
>
> > Holly, I've seen your posts on RGMA and am extending an invitation to
> > join the mud-dev mailing list. Its a private list, and we keep it
> > very high signal to noise. Personal attacks are not welcome, but you
> > wouldn't be seeing this from me if I thought you would...
>
> Not in public. Private email is another matter :) For the record, I
> regard listservs as public, to this matter.
>
> > You've got a point, but I think that even just CC'ing this group's
> > posts to RGMA might offer those who are looking for it a glimpse
> > of civility and thought that they otherwise would not find. AFAIK
> > RGMD and RGMA spawned many of us, I know it did me.
> >
> > I'm not suggesting that we allow losers to post here as they wish
> > however, they should have to pass some kind of minimal decency test :P
> >
> > I still think it would be a shame to allow RGM* to die though..although
> > I am at a loss as to how to save them from themselves...
>
> My thoughts on this...
>
> Actually, I am part of a very old listserv which sprang into existence
> from our familiarity with each other on a newsgroup. Said newsgroup
> (alt.society.generation-x) went through some really REALLY bad periods,
> but, it prevailed.
>
> For awhile there was much teeth gnashing and wailing over the state of
> the "sooper sekrit listserv what gets elitist" and whether this would
> mark the end of asg-x. *snort* No, Usenet lives on. asg-x and rgm.* are
> high-volume newsgroups, even if the quality of content might not always
> agree with the more civilized and mindful members of the newsgroups.
>
> I'll be the first one to admit that the content of a choice few folks on
> rgmd and rgma drive me straight up the wall, and that it's a test of my
> patience to not blurt out something dumb like "shut the &%($ up." But...
> that's par for the course, wrt Usenet anymore.
>
> Something like this listserv is good, because it allows those of us who
> wish to keep on-topic, remain civil, exchange information, debate (not to
> be confused with "argue"), etc., to do so. And, what's more, it's
> delivered to our Very Own Email Box :) No news feeds and their
> barnacle-like accompanying spam to deal with.
>
> As for posting some things from this serv to Usenet... well, based on
> past experience in similar situations, I'm not sure that's a good idea.
> Some people will feel indignant - "hey, how come I've not been invited!?
> *stamp* *pout* *scream*". Others will cry elitism - which, even if it is
> true, doesn't bode well with the general (usenet) public. I view it as a
> slight tease, but that's just MO, and I obviously have no moral qualms
> about being a member of a... more selective group of conversationlists :)
>
> So... thanks for the invite :) I'm looking forward to the discussions
> here. If anyone else is unfamiliar with me, I would be glad to provide a
> little background (to the whole serv, if that's acceptable, or to
> individual queries), just to let y'all know where I'm coming from.
>
> -Holly
>
> PS: the obvious allusion to /dev/null is good for some laughs :)
>
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> Holly J. Sommer Email: hsommer#micro,ti.com
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<LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] META: membership (was a fruitful exchange on classlessness in r.g.m.admin)</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00117" HREF="msg00117.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: membership (was a fruitful exchange on classlessness in r.g.m.admin)</A></strong>,
coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Fri 10 Apr 1998, 05:52 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00126" HREF="msg00126.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: membership (was a fruitful exchange on classlessness in r.g.m.admin)</A></strong>,
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Sat 11 Apr 1998, 01:46 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00129" HREF="msg00129.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: membership (was a fruitful exchange on clas</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sat 11 Apr 1998, 06:33 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00148" HREF="msg00148.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: membership</A></strong>,
Holly Sommer <a href="mailto:hsommer#micro,ti.com">hsommer#micro,ti.com</a>, Mon 13 Apr 1998, 15:10 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00150" HREF="msg00150.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: membership</A></strong>,
Cimri <a href="mailto:cimri1#gte,net">cimri1#gte,net</a>, Mon 13 Apr 1998, 17:04 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00151" HREF="msg00151.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: membership</A></strong>,
s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Mon 13 Apr 1998, 18:58 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00155" HREF="msg00155.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: membership</A></strong>,
Katrina McClelan <a href="mailto:kitkat#the486,bradley.edu">kitkat#the486,bradley.edu</a>, Mon 13 Apr 1998, 21:09 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00105" HREF="msg00105.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Unreal</A></strong>,
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Thu 09 Apr 1998, 22:35 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00152" HREF="msg00152.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Unreal</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 13 Apr 1998, 19:41 GMT
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