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<LI><em>From</em>: "Jon A. Lambert" &lt;<A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A>&gt;</LI>
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On 22 Apr 98 at 19:54, Ben Greear wrote:
&gt; Ben Greear (greear#cyberhighway,net)  <A  HREF="http://www.primenet.com/~greear">http://www.primenet.com/~greear</A> 
&gt; Author of ScryMUD:  mud.primenet.com 4444
&gt; <A  HREF="http://www.primenet.com/~greear/ScryMUD/scry.html">http://www.primenet.com/~greear/ScryMUD/scry.html</A>
&gt; On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, J C Lawrence wrote:
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&gt; [snipped good args about heap management]
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&gt; I wonder if this applies in Java?  Since it is already managing
&gt; all the memory, I'd bet it does (or will) provide heap defrag.
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&gt; Anyone got any info on this?
&gt; 

Well FWIW a quote from the "Java in a Nutshell" book:

"No, garbage collection will never be as efficient as explicit, 
well-written memory allocation and deallocation.  But it does make 
programming a lot easier and less prone to bugs."
 
Whether heap defragmentation is done or not depends on the vendor VM. 
AFAIK there is no Java requirement for it, just for the VM to do 
garbage collection and memory allocation.

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<LI><strong><A NAME="00086" HREF="msg00086.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 09 Apr 1998, 05:48 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00073" HREF="msg00073.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 08 Apr 1998, 18:22 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00762" HREF="msg00762.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 22 Apr 1998, 18:40 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00346" HREF="msg00346.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></strong>, 
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Thu 23 Apr 1998, 02:56 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00360" HREF="msg00360.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 23 Apr 1998, 05:58 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00014" HREF="msg00014.html">OT: This is a test of a system config change.</A></strong>, 
coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Sat 04 Apr 1998, 05:40 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00008" HREF="msg00008.html">Monthly FAQ Posting</A></strong>, 
Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk</a>, Thu 02 Apr 1998, 14:27 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00007" HREF="msg00007.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistant storage.... My current idea.</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 01 Apr 1998, 22:58 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00009" HREF="msg00009.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistant storage.... My current idea.</A></strong>, 
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Fri 03 Apr 1998, 09:11 GMT
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