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<H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Databases: was Re: skill system</H1>
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<LI><em>From</em>: ##Make Nylander &lt;<A HREF="mailto:thenewt#use,usit.net">thenewt#use,usit.net</A>&gt;</LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:31:10 -0400 (EDT)</LI>
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[Original message sent by s001gmu#nova,wright.edu]
| 
| There are 2 kinds of objects (to generalize).
| 1) Objects whose properties are compiled in. (A rock is a rock is a rock)
| 2) Objects who can change their properties at run time. (a rock can become
| an intelligent rock on the fly)
| 
| 1 maps nicely to a RDB because each of the objects compiled in simply gets
| its own table, with one column for each property.  2 does not map well
| because the setup listed for 1 (one table per object, one column per
| property) will just not work as the properties themselves change and
| changing a table's layout in SQL is ... expensive ... to say the least.

	I'd say this is not inherent to a query language or RDB model
	per se, but rather to the implementation of a particular database
	engine. 

| Unless I misunderstand, a RDB uses reflectivity, just not as easily
| mutable reflectivity.  You can't just add a new variable on the fly... you
| would have to create a new table, identical to the last + one new column,
| and then transfer all the old data over, adding in the new variable
| somehow.

	You can do this quite easily in, for instance, MS DAO/Jet (Access) --
	TableDefs("TableName").Fields.Append "FieldName". DAO has
	pretty nifty scheme of organizing databases to collections of
	objects (a Database is a collection of TableDefs, each of which is
	a collection of Fields. A collection is, essentially, a linked
	list of objects). You can create and drop tables, fields and
	indexes run-time very easily. Access is not very efficient in
	physical storage management, but again, this is due to
	implementation (Access is a "flat file" database), not design. 

		MNy

-- 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01047" HREF="msg01047.html">[MUD-Dev] OT: Announcement</A></strong>, 
s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Mon 15 Jun 1998, 16:57 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01048" HREF="msg01048.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: OT: Announcement</A></strong>, 
Nathan F Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Mon 15 Jun 1998, 18:17 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01019" HREF="msg01019.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Databases: was Re: skill system</A></strong>, 
John Bertoglio <a href="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com">alexb#internetcds,com</a>, Sun 14 Jun 1998, 04:53 GMT
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<li>&lt;Possible follow-up(s)&gt;<br>
<LI><strong><A NAME="01094" HREF="msg01094.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Databases: was Re: skill system</A></strong>, 
John Bertoglio <a href="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com">alexb#internetcds,com</a>, Wed 17 Jun 1998, 02:49 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01191" HREF="msg01191.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Databases: was Re: skill system</A></strong>, 
##Make Nylander <a href="mailto:thenewt#use,usit.net">thenewt#use,usit.net</a>, Wed 24 Jun 1998, 13:31 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01192" HREF="msg01192.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Databases: was Re: skill system</A></strong>, 
jacob langthorn <a href="mailto:jlangthorn#towertechinc,com">jlangthorn#towertechinc,com</a>, Wed 24 Jun 1998, 14:21 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01014" HREF="msg01014.html">[MUD-Dev] META: The web is a live again!</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Sat 13 Jun 1998, 02:36 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="01006" HREF="msg01006.html">[MUD-Dev] Away on a trip</A></strong>, 
Bryce <a href="mailto:S006JBH#nova,wright.edu">S006JBH#nova,wright.edu</a>, Fri 12 Jun 1998, 20:56 GMT
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<li>&lt;Possible follow-up(s)&gt;<br>
<LI><strong><A NAME="01011" HREF="msg01011.html">[MUD-Dev] Away on a trip</A></strong>, 
Bryce <a href="mailto:S006JBH#nova,wright.edu">S006JBH#nova,wright.edu</a>, Fri 12 Jun 1998, 23:47 GMT
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