<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Mud websites --> <!--X-From-R13: [ngg Qunggreyrl <znggNzcp.qla.zy.bet> --> <!--X-Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 04:54:18 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.LNX.3.96.980614124516.1606C-100000#mpc,dyn.ml.org --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.LNX.3.96.980609110234.23250A-100000#nebula,honors.unr.edu --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Mud websites</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01028.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01030.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00914.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00925.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01029">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01029">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01029">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Mud websites</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: MUD-Dev <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Mud websites</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Matt Chatterley <<A HREF="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 12:48:57 +0000 (GMT)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Robert Woods wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Greg Munt wrote: [Snip] > > What are their goals, and are they achieved? Do mud administrators provide > > what users want? > > A mud web site has a few goals that I can see: [Snip: recruiting newbies] > 2) Documentation - Even if just the FAQ, info on > classes/guilds/etc, maybe a couple of player hints pages. > People want to have info, and having at least the basics > on the web site makes it easier for them to get info without > having to worry about scrolling text, etc. Also, new mudders are going to be a lot more web-orientated, and will feel more comfortable with receiving information by this medium. > 3) Community Development - From giving info about the admins > to player/character/guild/class/clan/... page links, it gives > the sometimes cold-seeming telnet game a bit of warmth, and > gives people the sense of community that keeps old players > in the game. This is the most interesting thing to come out of this debate so far. Getting players to organise in guilds to create a webpage, with information resources, and advice, seems a very good step in expanding (as you say) the 'community' feeling (one of the /good/ things about muds), and encouraging group interactivity and play. By making guilds 'clubs' of sorts, you can also work on this; the guild members are a smaller group with more tendancy to work together, especially when hostilities arise with another guild. > > My perspective is that mud websites, as a medium, are wholly under- and > > mis-used. Most are put up to say 'here we are' and/or 'this is what you can > > do at myMUD!' - not much more than advertising spiel. The web could be > > taken advantage of so much, even by telnet-only games. Mostly, to encourage > > internal socio-political and cultural development (the more RP, the more > > advantages to using a website that there are). You can have online > > newsletters, websites for clubs/guilds, maps, histories if the world, lots > > and lots of things that could not be effectively achieved through telnet. > > What...you don't like the really nice ASCII maps that abound on muds? > I'll have you know that when I was an immortal on the mud I started on, I > mapped out two domains in ASCII. It took a long time. (Then they decided > to totally change one of the domains around, but that's another story.) This gets problematic if the player is using a non-fixed-width font, though? Thats the danger with ASCII/ANSI artwork; at least with 'real graphics' you can be sure that they see it correctly. Providing both is nice, though. [Snip rest] - -- -Matt Chatterley <A HREF="http://user.itl.net/~neddy/">http://user.itl.net/~neddy/</A> "You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.." -John Lennon (Imagine) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBNYPGu0sWGgRW8+MZAQFVHAMAqopbB7FSvTz9dhXbwS/ASbhA62Xvkrib n7sKqXhGpBoljWnQBu5myrbo/asVw17ccTZnTJtTYzAZJL/V45GQNPHmXPdi5BMF CAmmQF1ktoHRCZgD1OMrYMg2eB8UBxsH =b9Ih -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00914" HREF="msg00914.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Mud websites</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Robert Woods <rwoods#nebula,honors.unr.edu></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01028.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Mud websites</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01030.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Levelless MUDs</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00914.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Mud websites</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00925.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Mud websites</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01029"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01029"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: Mud websites</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="01027" HREF="msg01027.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Mud websites</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sun 14 Jun 1998, 11:44 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00913" HREF="msg00913.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Mud websites</A></strong>, Travis S. Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</a>, Tue 09 Jun 1998, 18:12 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01028" HREF="msg01028.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Mud websites</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sun 14 Jun 1998, 11:49 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00914" HREF="msg00914.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Mud websites</A></strong>, Robert Woods <a href="mailto:rwoods#nebula,honors.unr.edu">rwoods#nebula,honors.unr.edu</a>, Tue 09 Jun 1998, 18:25 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01029" HREF="msg01029.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Mud websites</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sun 14 Jun 1998, 11:54 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00925" HREF="msg00925.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Mud websites</A></strong>, Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Wed 10 Jun 1998, 01:33 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01018" HREF="msg01018.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Mud websites</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sat 13 Jun 1998, 14:19 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01125" HREF="msg01125.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Mud websites</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 18 Jun 1998, 18:45 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00910" HREF="msg00910.html">[MUD-Dev] Analysis and specification - the dirty words of mud development?</A></strong>, Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Tue 09 Jun 1998, 17:30 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>