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<LI><em>From</em>: "Koster, Raph" <<A HREF="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</A>></LI>
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On Monday, May 11, 1998 10:59 AM Holly Sommer
[SMTP:hsommer#micro,ti.com] said:
> What, exactly, is the problem with mud schools? [snip]
> to make negative comments about a
> learning center seems... myopic, IMO. Why would newbies hate a mud
> school?
Nothing is wrong with them per se. They fill a really valuable role.
I'd note the following interesting issues to discuss, though.
1) Where do you put all the people? Mud schools heretofore have only
handled TINY newbie capacities. They break down as soon as you get
more than two or three people in the same room. With larger scale
projects, this model will not work.
2) They're typically not very fictionally involving; this is mostly a
flaw with the ones that have been made thus far. They are also
typically pretty long; this is an issue for those going for mass
market, since attention span with tutorials is miniscule when on that
playing field. It's also an issue even in the mud world. I have almost
never seen someone completely new to muds do the mud school first
thing. Usually they want to dive in feet-first, then MAYBE go back to
the school later.
3) There's alternate methods too: Avalon has a fascinating newbie
tutorial mode for example, wherein you are essentially put in the real
world, but everyone else is invisible to you, and you play out a few
pre-scripted storylines that serve as tutorial instead. The "guardian
spirit" method is another nice tactic, as discussed here earlier with
the (failed) "talking sword" on Worlds of Carnage. There's the
"restricted initial area" approach instead of the "school" too.
So, nothing wrong with the concept as such, but I don't think that
it's anywhere near reaching the potential it could.
-Raph
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MUD-Dev: Advancing an unrealised future.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00573" HREF="msg00573.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: mudschools</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00591" HREF="msg00591.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 15 May 1998, 00:08 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00755" HREF="msg00755.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong>,
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Thu 21 May 1998, 16:40 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00499" HREF="msg00499.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong>,
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Mon 11 May 1998, 16:50 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00592" HREF="msg00592.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00518" HREF="msg00518.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00628" HREF="msg00628.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00711" HREF="msg00711.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong>,
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