1998Q2/
<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 -->
<!--X-Subject: [MUD&#45;Dev] Re: (fwd) AD: [custom graphical] whitestar Crossfire MUD -->
<!--X-From-R13: "Re. Qng" <pngNotn.pbz> -->
<!--X-Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:41:26 &#45;0700 -->
<!--X-Message-Id: 199804242241.RAA25922#zoom,bga.com -->
<!--X-Content-Type: text -->
<!--X-Reference: 199804241829.LAA334956#under,engr.sgi.com -->
<!--X-Head-End-->
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
<html>
<head>
<title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: (fwd) AD: [custom graphical] whitestar Crossfire</title>
<!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" -->
<link rev="made" href="mailto:cat#bga,com">
</head>
<body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff"
      text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000">

  <font size="+4" color="#804040">
    <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong>
  </font>
      
<br>
[&nbsp;<a href="../">Other Periods</a>
&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a>
&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="/search.php3">Search</a>
&nbsp;]
<br clear=all><hr>
<!--X-Body-Begin-->
<!--X-User-Header-->
<!--X-User-Header-End-->
<!--X-TopPNI-->

Date:&nbsp;
[&nbsp;<a href="msg00631.html">Previous</a>
&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="msg00675.html">Next</a>
&nbsp;]
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Thread:&nbsp;
[&nbsp;<a href="msg00620.html">Previous</a>
&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="msg00644.html">Next</a>
&nbsp;]
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Index:&nbsp;
[&nbsp;<A HREF="author.html#00637">Author</A>
&nbsp;|&nbsp;<A HREF="#00637">Date</A>
&nbsp;|&nbsp;<A HREF="thread.html#00637">Thread</A>
&nbsp;]

<!--X-TopPNI-End-->
<!--X-MsgBody-->
<!--X-Subject-Header-Begin-->
<H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: (fwd) AD: [custom graphical] whitestar Crossfire MUD</H1>
<HR>
<!--X-Subject-Header-End-->
<!--X-Head-of-Message-->
<UL>
<LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI>
<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: (fwd) AD: [custom graphical] whitestar Crossfire MUD</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: "Dr. Cat" &lt;<A HREF="mailto:cat#bga,com">cat#bga,com</A>&gt;</LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:41:01 -0500 (CDT)</LI>
<LI><em>Delivery-date</em>: Fri Apr 24 15:41:26 1998</LI>
<LI><em>Delivery-date</em>: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:41:26 -0700</LI>
<LI><em>Envelope-to</em>: claw#kanga,nu</LI>
<LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI>
<LI><em>Sender</em>: "Petidomo List Agent,,,," &lt;<A HREF="mailto:petidomo#kanga,nu">petidomo#kanga,nu</A>&gt;</LI>
</UL>
<!--X-Head-of-Message-End-->
<!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin-->
<HR>
<!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End-->
<!--X-Body-of-Message-->
<PRE>
&gt; whitestar.pyrsonal.com is the new public server for the realtime, multiuser
&gt; networked game "crossfire".
&gt; Playing is 100% free.
&gt; 
&gt; Previously, you had to have a unix machine connected to the net to play. But 
&gt; now, there is a java client, so most people out there can now join in.

I heard about Crossfire a long time ago - it was one of the first graphic 
muds on the Internet, along with Regenesis and some other things.  
(Graphic muds not on the Internet started in the 1970s, but that's 
another story).

I'm really wondering, though - why are they requiring you to download the 
Java and run it locally, instead of making it an applet that runs from 
the web page?  "Most people" can browse to a web page that runs some java 
program or other.  While "most people" could also, conceivably, download 
a Java run-time environment, install it, download Crossfire, and then run 
it...  I can pretty much guarantee that "most people" won't go to that 
much trouble.  Java's benefit of wider availability through 
cross-platform compatibility is only actually realized if people can run 
the applet by just clicking on a link on the web to start it.

Any word on whether the authors intend to set the app up to run that way?
Is there some benefit to doing it the way they did, like better execution 
speed?

*-------------------------------------------**-----------------------------* 
   Dr. Cat / Dragon's Eye Productions       ||       Free alpha test:
*-------------------------------------------**  <A  HREF="http://www.bga.com/furcadia">http://www.bga.com/furcadia</A>
  Furcadia - a new graphic mud for PCs!     ||  Let your imagination soar!
*-------------------------------------------**-----------------------------*

-- 
MUD-Dev: Advancing an unrealised future.
</PRE>

<!--X-Body-of-Message-End-->
<!--X-MsgBody-End-->
<!--X-Follow-Ups-->
<HR>
<ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>:
<ul>
<li><strong><A NAME="00644" HREF="msg00644.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: (fwd) AD: [custom graphical] whitestar Crossfire MUD</A></strong>
<ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Ben Greear &lt;greear#cyberhighway,net&gt;</li></ul>
</UL></LI></UL>
<!--X-Follow-Ups-End-->
<!--X-References-->
<UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>:
<UL>
<LI><STRONG><A NAME="00620" HREF="msg00620.html">[MUD-Dev] (fwd) AD: [custom graphical] whitestar Crossfire MUD</A></STRONG>
<UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> J C Lawrence &lt;claw#under,engr.sgi.com&gt;</LI></UL></LI>
</UL></LI></UL>
<!--X-References-End-->
<!--X-BotPNI-->
<UL>
<LI>Prev by Date:
<STRONG><A HREF="msg00631.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></STRONG>
</LI>
<LI>Next by Date:
<STRONG><A HREF="msg00675.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: How to represent a 3d object...</A></STRONG>
</LI>
<LI>Prev by thread:
<STRONG><A HREF="msg00620.html">[MUD-Dev] (fwd) AD: [custom graphical] whitestar Crossfire MUD</A></STRONG>
</LI>
<LI>Next by thread:
<STRONG><A HREF="msg00644.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: (fwd) AD: [custom graphical] whitestar Crossfire MUD</A></STRONG>
</LI>
<LI>Index(es):
<UL>
<LI><A HREF="index.html#00637"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI>
<LI><A HREF="thread.html#00637"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI>
</UL>
</LI>
</UL>

<!--X-BotPNI-End-->
<!--X-User-Footer-->
<!--X-User-Footer-End-->
<ul><li>Thread context:
<BLOCKQUOTE><UL>
<LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: How to represent a 3d object...</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
<ul compact>
<ul compact>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00726" HREF="msg00726.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: How to represent a 3d object...</A></strong>, 
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Sun 26 Apr 1998, 04:14 GMT
</LI>
</ul>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00242" HREF="msg00242.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: How to represent a 3d object...</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 29 Apr 1998, 22:49 GMT
</LI>
</ul>
</LI>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00663" HREF="msg00663.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MAPPING: Creating a bitmaped graphic from map</A></strong>, 
John Bertoglio <a href="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com">alexb#internetcds,com</a>, Sat 25 Apr 1998, 01:20 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00620" HREF="msg00620.html">[MUD-Dev] (fwd) AD: [custom graphical] whitestar Crossfire MUD</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 24 Apr 1998, 18:29 GMT
<UL>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00637" HREF="msg00637.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: (fwd) AD: [custom graphical] whitestar Crossfire MUD</A></strong>, 
Dr. Cat <a href="mailto:cat#bga,com">cat#bga,com</a>, Fri 24 Apr 1998, 22:41 GMT
<UL>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00644" HREF="msg00644.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: (fwd) AD: [custom graphical] whitestar Crossfire MUD</A></strong>, 
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Sat 25 Apr 1998, 02:16 GMT
<UL>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00684" HREF="msg00684.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: (fwd) AD: [custom graphical] whitestar Crossfire MUD</A></strong>, 
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sat 25 Apr 1998, 01:13 GMT
</LI>
</UL>
</LI>
</UL>
</LI>
</UL>
</LI>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00604" HREF="msg00604.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: There can be.. only ONE!  (fwd)</A></strong>, 
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Fri 24 Apr 1998, 17:13 GMT
<UL>
<LI><strong><A NAME="00239" HREF="msg00239.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: There can be.. only ONE! (fwd)</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 29 Apr 1998, 20:58 GMT
</LI>
</UL>
</LI>
</UL></BLOCKQUOTE>

</ul>
<hr>
<center>
[&nbsp;<a href="../">Other Periods</a>
&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a>
&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="/search.php3">Search</a>
&nbsp;]
</center>
<hr>
</body>
</html>