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<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: The great crusade.... </LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: "Jon A. Lambert" <<A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 23:31:22 -5</LI>
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On 15 Jun 98, Koster, Raph wrote:
> >
> I noted that in one of his other articles he highly recommends Medievia.
> Hurm...
<gnashing of teeth> Hmm... No comment.
> > I wanted a
> > MUD which not only stressed role-playing (as many do), but rather
> > enforced it. [snip] I wanted
> > a MUD where you were required to be in character every moment you were
> > logged on, whether you were in a private channel with one other
> > person,
> >
> Ooh, this strikes me as a mistake. IMHO, since social bonds between
> players inevitably migrate OOC, a mud which enforces no OOC contact
> whatsoever is actually be self-limiting. Its community will not develop
> precisely because it restricts itself to IC activity, which tends not to
> be as emotionally and socially engaging as OOC contact.
>
I agree. OOC must exist. The game world CAN have this extreme
enforcement while in-game and IC, but to do away with all forms of
OOC is a tough call. I favor a strong physical separation of the
two communications. Players have there own names and "areas";
characters have their own names and "areas". I don't see
multiplaying as a problem, more as a solution, however this mud
apparently does.
> > At the end, it all came down to one thing. It seemed that in finding a
> > true role-playing MUD, you also found a place where much freedom was
> > given up.
> >
> And of course, this means that it will probably never move beyond a
> niche. :( For even though I myself would prefer an environment where I
> were totally immersed (that happens to be my style of play--IC all the
> way, never to break it except in OOC areas if any), there's really DAMN
> few people who actually like that.
>
Me too. But the lack of any OOC support is very problematic. I
doubt I could be engaged in such a world for long, unless the player
density was high enough to permit a significant or convenient amount
of IC interaction. On a low player density mud (large world), I
would believe it would be nigh impossible. I do wish he would have
given the mud name though. <sigh>
mud-dev: Feeding the world.
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<LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: OT: Announcement</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01068" HREF="msg01068.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: OT: Announcement</A></strong>,
s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Tue 16 Jun 1998, 14:31 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01100" HREF="msg01100.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: OT: Announcement</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Wed 17 Jun 1998, 04:54 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01105" HREF="msg01105.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: OT: Announcement</A></strong>,
s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Wed 17 Jun 1998, 14:57 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01062" HREF="msg01062.html">[MUD-Dev] RE: The great crusade....</A></strong>,
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 16 Jun 1998, 02:18 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01065" HREF="msg01065.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: The great crusade....</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 16 Jun 1998, 03:33 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01073" HREF="msg01073.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: The great crusade....</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 16 Jun 1998, 17:17 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01080" HREF="msg01080.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: The great crusade....</A></strong>,
Mike Sellers <a href="mailto:mike#bignetwork,com">mike#bignetwork,com</a>, Tue 16 Jun 1998, 18:39 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01059" HREF="msg01059.html">[MUD-Dev] The great crusade....</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 16 Jun 1998, 01:18 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="01049" HREF="msg01049.html">[MUD-Dev] (fwd) Temporality and user actions in MUDs</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 15 Jun 1998, 18:26 GMT
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