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<LI><em>From</em>: Marian Griffith <<A HREF="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</A>></LI>
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In <URL:<A HREF="news:local.muddev">news:local.muddev</A>> on Sat 11 Apr, Vadim Tkachenko wrote:
> Marian Griffith wrote:
> > On Thu 09 Apr, Travis Casey wrote:
> > > On Thursday, 9 April 98, Vadim wrote:
> [skipped]
> > Mages of course could well have ways to ensure that expelled members
> > lose all knowledge of (or at least the power required with) skills
> > learned at the guild. Fighters could go to the extreme of removing a
> > hand but in reality that was hardly necessary. The real punishment
> > of being expelled from a guild was losing its backing.
> There's a subtle difference between being expelled from the guild and
> leaving it voluntarily - and it should be handled differently.
I wonder if the guild would be bothered by this subtle difference. They
might consider the difference irrelevant and treat both situations the
same way.
> > > What if characters who left a guild could keep the powers gained, but
> > > were supposed to give up using them? Those who didn't give them up
> > > would be considered to have defied the guild and become renegades.
> > Like you said, some skills are hard to give up upon leaving a guild.
> > Perhaps the guild would, if the renegade keeps a high profile, hunt
> > down and permanently remove him.
> Now, this is a perfect idea. Let's just make it 'try' to permanently
> remove him, because, well, we all know about the mafia's rule - one
> dollar to step in, one hundred to step out - although, the rules may be
> different for different guilds...
Personally I am not so charmed by this idea, but then that has another
reason and one that has no bearing on the discussion so I will leave
that matter to rest.
> > > Of course, some sort of limits would be needed -- you probably
> > > wouldn't want a character to go around and learn the powers of all the
> > > different guilds. Still, this could add an additional roleplaying
> > > dimension to a game.
> > The real need is that guilds provide a more lasting service to the
> > players than merely training them skills. Food, shelter, protection,
> > anything that a player can not forego would do in this respect.
> By the way, this is another way to provide the 'safe area' - I wonder
> why nobody mentioned it before
Possibly because in most muds new players, the ones who mostly need that
safe area, are typically the ones who are -not- in a class or guild. So
they would not benefit from the protection offered by a guild.
Marian
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00146" HREF="msg00146.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Caballah [was Character development]</A></strong>,
Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Mon 13 Apr 1998, 10:48 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00147" HREF="msg00147.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] OT: Caballah [was Character development]</A></strong>,
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Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Mon 13 Apr 1998, 10:48 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00143" HREF="msg00143.html">Character development [was Re: ]</A></strong>,
s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Mon 13 Apr 1998, 02:03 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00144" HREF="msg00144.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Character development [was Re: ]</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00153" HREF="msg00153.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Character development [was Re: ]</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00156" HREF="msg00156.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Character development [was Re: ]</A></strong>,
Cimri <a href="mailto:cimri1#gte,net">cimri1#gte,net</a>, Mon 13 Apr 1998, 23:58 GMT
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