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<H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: (fwd) AD: [custom graphical] whitestar Crossfire MUD</H1>
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<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: (fwd) AD: [custom graphical] whitestar Crossfire MUD </LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: Matt Chatterley <<A HREF="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</A>></LI>
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On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, J C Lawrence wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Apr 1998 14:03:48 -0500 (CDT)
> Cat <cat#bga,com> wrote:
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> > Consider my alternative tool, Microsoft Visual C++ - which I did, in
> > fact, choose. Had I even considered the alternative of doing a
> > non-web based Java app, as Crossfire did, rather than a Windows-only
> > .exe file, I'd be looking at a simple tradeoff. The majority of my
> > potential Windows users, the ones who do not happen to already have
> > the Java runtime environment installed, would have to go through
> > extra download time, and extra setup time. Some of them would still
> > try the game anyway, others would decide it's too much hassle to
> > bother with. So I lose that number of potential users. In
> > exchange, I gain some percentage of the users of other platforms
> > that Java runs on - most (but not all) of the non-Windows-based
> > computers out there. It's a simple question of numbers. Is the
> > number gained larger than the number lost, or smaller?
>
> I should probably note up front that your choice lost me as a
> potential customer. I have only one system out of the half dozen plus
> at home that is physically capable of running Windows (Windows doesn't
> run on Alpha's, PA RISC's etc), plus the minor fact that I refuse to
> own or use any MS products of any flavour. <shrug> Then again, my
> computing habits don't fall into any of the more commercially
> desirable mass-market demographics.
True, commercially speaking, I think.. although not necessarily. There are
a *lot* of people with non-windows machines which can run Java (*example
only* - lets not drop into Java advocacy issues, please?). Amiga, Linux
(and other UNIXite systems) being the main to leap to mind. I believe the
Acorn/ARM machines can also run Java, now.. thats probably enough to
balance up the 'risk' of requiring the JRE. Of course, for a commercial
product, you could supply a suitable JRE along with a copy of the client
on disk or cd.
As to which number would be larger (assuming download-only distribution)..
who can tell? This list isn't a particularly good survey form, since I
think we are largely non-windows based? I do know that a commercial
release over multi-platforms could play up on this fact advertising wise,
to reach a greater audience.. Hmm. Interesting.
[Snip rest]
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-Matt Chatterley
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00300" HREF="msg00300.html">[MUD-Dev] OT: CGDC</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00343" HREF="msg00343.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: OT: CGDC</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00419" HREF="msg00419.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: (fwd) AD: [custom graphical] whitestar</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 06 May 1998, 17:04 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00311" HREF="msg00311.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: (fwd) AD: [custom graphical] whitestar Crossfire MUD</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Sat 02 May 1998, 00:31 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00267" HREF="msg00267.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: (fwd) AD: [custom graphical] whitestar Crossfire MUD</A></strong>,
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Thu 30 Apr 1998, 11:58 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00328" HREF="msg00328.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: (fwd) AD: [custom graphical] whitestar Crossfi</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sat 02 May 1998, 17:11 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00747" HREF="msg00747.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: (fwd) AD: [custom graphical] whitestar Crossfire MUD</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sun 26 Apr 1998, 16:00 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00255" HREF="msg00255.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: (fwd) AD: [custom graphical] whitestar Crossfire MUD</A></strong>,
Jay Sax <a href="mailto:cimri1#gte,net">cimri1#gte,net</a>, Thu 30 Apr 1998, 01:43 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00353" HREF="msg00353.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: (fwd) AD: [custom graphical] whitestar Crossfire MUD</A></strong>,
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Mon 04 May 1998, 07:53 GMT
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