<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Nested coorindate space model --> <!--X-From-R13: "Prawnzva R. 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Wiechel" <<A HREF="mailto:strycher#toast,net">strycher#toast,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 28 May 1998 13:54:49 -0400</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> -----Original Message----- From: Ling <K.L.Lo-94#student,lboro.ac.uk> To: mud-dev#kanga,nu <mud-dev#kanga,nu> Date: Thursday, May 21, 1998 1:34 PM Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Nested coorindate space model >On Wed, 20 May 1998, J C Lawrence wrote: > >> Given a domain which consists of several distinct lumps, the >> coordinate system ignores the "space" between the lumps. ie the space >> between the lumps as defined by the containing coordinate system is >> treated as of zero size. > >Cunning, though for me, it's more of a curiosity than something I'd be >willing to implement. Can a builder switch between coord systems? Say >from cartesian to cylindrical? Or perhaps something even more bizarre, >like transformations to a Z plane: [snip] I guess something that strikes me about coordinate systems is this: The times I have thought about coordinate systems it was for two reasons. One would be to quickly "build" a very generic area, like a long path, or a large meadow, where there wouldn't be much change in description. You could build a small database within the MUD to handle the coordinates, maybe just a large multi-dimensional array or mapping. You could use it with the same description for all rooms, or have it store unique descriptions, or any combination. Or the concept of D-space from MUSH environments like Robomush from years ago. The other reason would be to keep track of ownership of areas.... which you wouldn't even really NEED a coordinate system to do. That way, as kings and lords won battles and took over new areas, the ownership would/could change. This is probably easier handled in a variable in the object code itself though, rather than a coordinates system. Perhaps I'm too locked into my old modes of thinking however. I grew up in the old LP muds, dating back to the good old 2.4.5 driver/lib. Maybe for other games like UOL it makes more sense to use coordinates? -- Benjamin D. Wiechel <A HREF="http://www.toast.net/~strycher/">http://www.toast.net/~strycher/</A> strycher#toast,net </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00862" HREF="msg00862.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Nested coorindate space model</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> J C Lawrence <claw#under,engr.sgi.com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00846.html">[MUD-Dev] skill system</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00848.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MURKLE: Wot it is</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00871.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [Mud-Dev] Playerkilling website</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00862.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Nested coorindate space model</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00847"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00847"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: [Mud-Dev] Playerkilling website</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00872" HREF="msg00872.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [Mud-Dev] Playerkilling website</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 03 Jun 1998, 20:10 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00860" HREF="msg00860.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [Mud-Dev] Playerkilling website</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 02 Jun 1998, 17:12 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00858" HREF="msg00858.html">[MUD-Dev] [Mud-Dev] Playerkilling website</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Mon 01 Jun 1998, 22:37 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00871" HREF="msg00871.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: [Mud-Dev] Playerkilling website</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 03 Jun 1998, 19:38 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00847" HREF="msg00847.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Nested coorindate space model</A></strong>, Benjamin D. Wiechel <a href="mailto:strycher#toast,net">strycher#toast,net</a>, Thu 28 May 1998, 17:56 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00862" HREF="msg00862.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Nested coorindate space model</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 03 Jun 1998, 02:29 GMT </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00897" HREF="msg00897.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Nested coorindate space model</A></strong>, Jason Goodwin <a href="mailto:wgoodwin#iquest,net">wgoodwin#iquest,net</a>, Sat 06 Jun 1998, 19:20 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00846" HREF="msg00846.html">[MUD-Dev] skill system</A></strong>, Andrew C.M. 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