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<LI><em>From</em>: "Felix A. Croes" &lt;<A HREF="mailto:felix#xs1,simplex.nl">felix#xs1,simplex.nl</A>&gt;</LI>
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Jon A. Lambert &lt;jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com&gt; wrote:

&gt; On  3 May 98 at 1:23, Felix A. Croes wrote:
&gt; &gt; Jon A. Lambert &lt;jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;[...]
&gt; &gt; &gt; Thus an Event may be made up of many methods/functions, all of which must
&gt; &gt; &gt; succeed for the event to commit.  Methods may schedule additional Events 
&gt; &gt; &gt; and these events will be scheduled regardless of whether the generating
&gt; &gt; &gt; Event succeeds or not.  So in many cases, Event calls will be obviously 
&gt; &gt; &gt; be placed just before the successful return of the top-most method.  
&gt; &gt; &gt; There is a caveat.  A method/function which is called as an event 
&gt; &gt; &gt; should ensure that it checks the state of the caller/callee for state 
&gt; &gt; &gt; validity.  Nothing comes for free.  I have just shuffled the complexity 
&gt; &gt; &gt; into another area of program design.  I have a theory this might be 
&gt; &gt; &gt; unavoidable.  :(
&gt; &gt; 
&gt; &gt; Hmm.  That is one thing I mean to do differently: if the current
&gt; &gt; event fails to commit, then any events generated by it are unscheduled.
&gt;
&gt; Currently I have no way to do this.  

In your system, isn't it also necessary to check the state of successor
events?  For example: event A schedules event B, and then fails.  Event
B is started and succeeds.  Event A is restarted, schedules event B
again, and succeeds.  Event B is started and succeeds.  Now event A has
completed once, but successor event B has completed twice, even though
B can only be scheduled by A.

Also, doesn't this imply that when A schedules B, it cannot pass along
data to B?  After all, that data has been prepared by an event that may
turn out not to have existed.

This looks like a very chaotic system to me.  What are the advantages
that make you prefer it?

Felix Croes

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<LI><strong><A NAME="00411" HREF="msg00411.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: atomic functions</A></strong>, 
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Tue 05 May 1998, 19:33 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00457" HREF="msg00457.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: atomic functions</A></strong>, 
Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Thu 07 May 1998, 14:09 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00542" HREF="msg00542.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: atomic functions</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00560" HREF="msg00560.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: atomic functions</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Wed 13 May 1998, 22:14 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00339" HREF="msg00339.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: atomic functions</A></strong>, 
Felix A. Croes <a href="mailto:felix#xs1,simplex.nl">felix#xs1,simplex.nl</a>, Sun 03 May 1998, 17:45 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00345" HREF="msg00345.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: atomic functions</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sun 03 May 1998, 16:50 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00446" HREF="msg00446.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: atomic functions</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 06 May 1998, 23:03 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00443" HREF="msg00443.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: atomic functions</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 06 May 1998, 22:26 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00376" HREF="msg00376.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: atomic functions</A></strong>, 
Felix A. Croes <a href="mailto:felix#xs1,simplex.nl">felix#xs1,simplex.nl</a>, Mon 04 May 1998, 17:25 GMT
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