<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: atomic functions --> <!--X-From-R13: "Tryvk O. Qebrf" <sryvkNkf1.fvzcyrk.ay> --> <!--X-Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 10:45:36 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199805031743.TAA20450#xs1,simplex.nl --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: atomic functions</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:felix#xs1,simplex.nl"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00338.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00347.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00560.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00345.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00339">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00339">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00339">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: atomic functions</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: atomic functions</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Felix A. Croes" <<A HREF="mailto:felix#xs1,simplex.nl">felix#xs1,simplex.nl</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 3 May 1998 19:43:41 +0200 (MET DST)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: "Petidomo List Agent -- Kanga.Nu version" <<A HREF="mailto:petidomo#kanga,nu">petidomo#kanga,nu</A>></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Jon A. Lambert <jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com> wrote: > On 3 May 98 at 1:23, Felix A. Croes wrote: > > Jon A. Lambert <jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com> wrote: >[...] > > > Thus an Event may be made up of many methods/functions, all of which must > > > succeed for the event to commit. Methods may schedule additional Events > > > and these events will be scheduled regardless of whether the generating > > > Event succeeds or not. So in many cases, Event calls will be obviously > > > be placed just before the successful return of the top-most method. > > > There is a caveat. A method/function which is called as an event > > > should ensure that it checks the state of the caller/callee for state > > > validity. Nothing comes for free. I have just shuffled the complexity > > > into another area of program design. I have a theory this might be > > > unavoidable. :( > > > > Hmm. That is one thing I mean to do differently: if the current > > event fails to commit, then any events generated by it are unscheduled. > > Currently I have no way to do this. In your system, isn't it also necessary to check the state of successor events? For example: event A schedules event B, and then fails. Event B is started and succeeds. Event A is restarted, schedules event B again, and succeeds. Event B is started and succeeds. Now event A has completed once, but successor event B has completed twice, even though B can only be scheduled by A. Also, doesn't this imply that when A schedules B, it cannot pass along data to B? After all, that data has been prepared by an event that may turn out not to have existed. This looks like a very chaotic system to me. What are the advantages that make you prefer it? Felix Croes -- MUD-Dev: Advancing an unrealised future. </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00443" HREF="msg00443.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: atomic functions</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> J C Lawrence <claw#under,engr.sgi.com></li></ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00345" HREF="msg00345.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: atomic functions</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> "Jon A. 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Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Wed 13 May 1998, 22:14 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00339" HREF="msg00339.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: atomic functions</A></strong>, Felix A. Croes <a href="mailto:felix#xs1,simplex.nl">felix#xs1,simplex.nl</a>, Sun 03 May 1998, 17:45 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00345" HREF="msg00345.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: atomic functions</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sun 03 May 1998, 16:50 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00446" HREF="msg00446.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: atomic functions</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 06 May 1998, 23:03 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00443" HREF="msg00443.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: atomic functions</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Wed 06 May 1998, 22:26 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00376" HREF="msg00376.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: atomic functions</A></strong>, Felix A. Croes <a href="mailto:felix#xs1,simplex.nl">felix#xs1,simplex.nl</a>, Mon 04 May 1998, 17:25 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>