<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest --> <!--X-From-R13: Xba Zrbaneq <wyrbaneqNqvipbz.hzbc-nc.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:33:52 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 19980410123105.55337#divcom,umop-ap.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 9804101611.8wfn@ami-cg.GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:jleonard#divcom,umop-ap.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00124.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00126.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00123.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00337.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00125">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00125">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00125">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Jon Leonard <<A HREF="mailto:jleonard#divcom,umop-ap.com">jleonard#divcom,umop-ap.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:31:05 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Cc</em>: Jon Leonard <<A HREF="mailto:jleonard#divcom,umop-ap.com">jleonard#divcom,umop-ap.com</A>></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 11:51:01AM +0000, Chris Gray wrote: > [Alex O:] > > [Fibre description snipped] > > :I don't any advantage in using fibers instead of threads in a MUD server. > > I'll second that. Fibres within a thread cannot take advantage of extra > CPU's, so give you no speed increase on multi-CPU machines. If a fibre > does a system call, the entire thread is busy until that call returns. > So, unless you have some flow-control problem that is best solved by > having the multiple contexts of multiple fibres, and you need to switch > those contexts so often that threads are too expensive, there is little > gain to using fibres. The one advantage they would have is that mutual exclusion code doesn't have to be written as carefully: context switches are known not to happen in critical regions. In other words, some kinds of broken code will still run. It's not worth it. It's the cooperative/preemptive multitasking tradoffs all over again. Jon Leonard </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00123" HREF="msg00123.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA (Chris Gray)</LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00124.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] GRUMPS</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00126.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: membership (was a fruitful exchange on classlessness in r.g.m.admin)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00123.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00337.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00125"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00125"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: [Fwd: MUD-Dev]</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00059" HREF="msg00059.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: [Fwd: MUD-Dev]</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 07 Apr 1998, 22:24 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00083" HREF="msg00083.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] [Fwd: MUD-Dev]</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 09 Apr 1998, 02:24 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00040" HREF="msg00040.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 06 Apr 1998, 17:09 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00123" HREF="msg00123.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Fri 10 Apr 1998, 18:21 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00125" HREF="msg00125.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></strong>, Jon Leonard <a href="mailto:jleonard#divcom,umop-ap.com">jleonard#divcom,umop-ap.com</a>, Fri 10 Apr 1998, 19:33 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00337" HREF="msg00337.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Wed 22 Apr 1998, 22:24 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00387" HREF="msg00387.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Thu 23 Apr 1998, 14:46 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00498" HREF="msg00498.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Fri 24 Apr 1998, 04:11 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00515" HREF="msg00515.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></strong>, Dr. Cat <a href="mailto:cat#bga,com">cat#bga,com</a>, Fri 24 Apr 1998, 04:44 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>