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<H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</H1>
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<LI><em>From</em>: Jon Leonard &lt;<A HREF="mailto:jleonard#divcom,umop-ap.com">jleonard#divcom,umop-ap.com</A>&gt;</LI>
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On Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 11:51:01AM +0000, Chris Gray wrote:
&gt; [Alex O:]
&gt; 
&gt; [Fibre description snipped]
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&gt; :I don't any advantage in using fibers instead of threads in a MUD server.
&gt; 
&gt; I'll second that. Fibres within a thread cannot take advantage of extra
&gt; CPU's, so give you no speed increase on multi-CPU machines. If a fibre
&gt; does a system call, the entire thread is busy until that call returns.
&gt; So, unless you have some flow-control problem that is best solved by
&gt; having the multiple contexts of multiple fibres, and you need to switch
&gt; those contexts so often that threads are too expensive, there is little
&gt; gain to using fibres.

The one advantage they would have is that mutual exclusion code doesn't
have to be written as carefully:  context switches are known not to happen
in critical regions.

In other words, some kinds of broken code will still run.  It's not worth it.

It's the cooperative/preemptive multitasking tradoffs all over again.

Jon Leonard

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<LI><strong><A NAME="00059" HREF="msg00059.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: [Fwd: MUD-Dev]</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 07 Apr 1998, 22:24 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00083" HREF="msg00083.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] [Fwd: MUD-Dev]</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 09 Apr 1998, 02:24 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00040" HREF="msg00040.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></strong>, 
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 06 Apr 1998, 17:09 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00123" HREF="msg00123.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Fri 10 Apr 1998, 18:21 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00125" HREF="msg00125.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></strong>, 
Jon Leonard <a href="mailto:jleonard#divcom,umop-ap.com">jleonard#divcom,umop-ap.com</a>, Fri 10 Apr 1998, 19:33 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00337" HREF="msg00337.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Wed 22 Apr 1998, 22:24 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00387" HREF="msg00387.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Thu 23 Apr 1998, 14:46 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00498" HREF="msg00498.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></strong>, 
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Fri 24 Apr 1998, 04:11 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00515" HREF="msg00515.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: MUD Development Digest</A></strong>, 
Dr. Cat <a href="mailto:cat#bga,com">cat#bga,com</a>, Fri 24 Apr 1998, 04:44 GMT
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