<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary --> <!--X-From-R13: X Q Znjerapr <pynjNhaqre.rate.ftv.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 17:08:00 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199805150007.RAA07318#under,engr.sgi.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Pine.HPP.3.91.980511105401.14088A-100000#emu,micro.ti.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00590.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00592.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00573.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00755.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00591">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00591">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00591">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: J C Lawrence <<A HREF="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 14 May 1998 17:07:48 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: "Petidomo List Agent -- Kanga.Nu version" <<A HREF="mailto:petidomo#kanga,nu">petidomo#kanga,nu</A>></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Mon, 11 May 1998 10:59:14 -0500 (CDT) Holly Sommer<hsommer#micro,ti.com> wrote: > On Mon, 11 May 1998, Koster, Raph wrote: > What, exactly, is the problem with mud schools? They serve the > singular purpose of letting those who are brand new to your (type > of) world gain some familiarity with it, before venturing forth. I > should think that any admin would be glad to have a "mud schoo" > which answers newbie questions, rather than having to answer those > questions him/herself time and again. Do any MUD schools actually exist which *DO* this? I haven't found one yet. Certainly the standard DIKU mud school derivitive seems nothing but a trial to get thru as quickly as possible. > The mud school which ships with Merc derivitives is great for what > it does - namely, that listed above. Hrum. Care to point me at one? All the ones I've seen merely hand out a few practices, and set up target monsters to slaughter. > Why would newbies hate a mud school? It lets them collect their > wits, and prepare for the rest of the game. I can't see anything > wrong with that, as a concept, nor with the functionality of the > "original" mud school itself. My initial view of mud schools (coming from an Aber/Shades background at that time, never having seen a DIKU or LP before): Ohh, so I'm supposed to go over here. and practice things. Why? Oh well, the sooner I do it the sooner I can get on to something else. Not over yet? What's this? Silly word games to get me to read the room descriptions? Bah! Next! Okay, I go down to the dungeon. Yeah, I see what "Consider" does. Gawds this is boring! QUIT! It took a couple months for me to forget this trial and have another go: Oh yeah, same old dumb shit. Lets skip it. Oops! No sword and no food. Looks like I need them in this world. Where do I get them? MUD school? Oh no, not again! QUIT! A few weeks later I tried another one. (read room description after logging in). Oh yeah, well let's get thru MUD school this time and see what I can really do with this junk. Yada yada yada. Okay, did the consider thing, killed the monster, got thrown out into the arena, killed some lizards and things, how do I get out of here? Oh yeah. The city -- least I have a sword now. What a bloody waste of time that all was! Oooo! There's a FIDO! The only thing I seem to be able to do is kill things, let's kill it. Ooo! There's a beggar, lets kill him to. What the bleep bleep is that guard doing? Why did he kill me? QUIT! It took a _long_ time before I found one that didn't require going thru MUD school. No thanks. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net (Contractor) Internet: coder#ibm,net ---------(*) Internet: claw#under,engr.sgi.com ...Honourary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... -- MUD-Dev: Advancing an unrealised future. </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00755" HREF="msg00755.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Marian Griffith <gryphon#iaehv,nl></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00497" HREF="msg00497.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Holly Sommer <hsommer#micro,ti.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00590.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00592.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00573.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: mudschools</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00755.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00591"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00591"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00593" HREF="msg00593.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 15 May 1998, 00:58 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00503" HREF="msg00503.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: mudschools</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Mon 11 May 1998, 19:23 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00568" HREF="msg00568.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: mudschools</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Thu 14 May 1998, 10:17 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00573" HREF="msg00573.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: mudschools</A></strong>, Mike Sellers <a href="mailto:mike#bignetwork,com">mike#bignetwork,com</a>, Thu 14 May 1998, 13:22 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00591" HREF="msg00591.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 15 May 1998, 00:08 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00755" HREF="msg00755.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Thu 21 May 1998, 16:40 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00590" HREF="msg00590.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 14 May 1998, 23:56 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00499" HREF="msg00499.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Mon 11 May 1998, 16:50 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00592" HREF="msg00592.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: CGDC, a summary</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 15 May 1998, 00:27 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>