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<LI><em>From</em>: Holly Sommer <<A HREF="mailto:hsommer#micro,ti.com">hsommer#micro,ti.com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 13 May 1998 12:23:56 -0500 (CDT)</LI>
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<PRE>
Huh. I never got the original of this, so I'll be commenting "out of
context," unfortunately.
On Wed, 13 May 1998 s001gmu#nova,wright.edu wrote:
> On Wed, 13 May 1998, John Bertoglio wrote:
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> [...]
>
> > Of course the server will have to make the same checks as the JS in the
> > form so players with HTML savvy can't create monster characters by
> > overriding the internal limits. This hacking element makes the backend work
> > so much more complicated than it really needs to be.....
>
> You should be able to hide the entire contents of the javascript code by
> referencing a file, rather than embedding the script code in the html that
> they DL. The java script still gets DL'd (of course), and executed
> locally, but should they choose to look at the html source, all they see
> is a tag referencing a file. I don't recall the details (I've never
> worked in javascript), but I do know you can do it.
You cannot "hide" Javascript - even through referencing a *.js file to be
loaded at read-time of your webpage, people can go directly to the js
file. The good folks at comp.lang.javascript have gone over and over this
for quite awhile :)
> > Any member of the list who would like to poach the code may feel free to do
> > so. I would be honored (while at the same time somewhat suprised...it is
> > pretty simple.).
>
> Simple doesn't mean bad, or unworthy of attention. Elegance in simplicity
> is always a driving factor in my code designs... I'd like to think I
> achieve it every once in a while.
To paraphrase Whitman: "Simplicity, simplicity - we need more simplicity;
we spend so much time frittering away our lives on useless detailed
complexity." I pretty much agree with that. The more complex something
is, generally, the more fragile it is.
As for the Subject: line... well <pedant>You don't really use HTML to
generate a character - it's just a markup language</pedant>, why not
write a CGI which does the same thing as your in-server character
generator, including die rolling and random fuzziness. It wouldn't be
that tough :)
-Holly
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MUD-Dev: Advancing an unrealised future.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00832" HREF="msg00832.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Mudschool</A></strong>,
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org">matt#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Tue 26 May 1998, 00:40 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00549" HREF="msg00549.html">Request "unsubscribe calvin#orinconhi,com mud-dev"</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00532" HREF="msg00532.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Using HTML for a Mud character generator</A></strong>,
John Bertoglio <a href="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com">alexb#internetcds,com</a>, Wed 13 May 1998, 06:59 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00537" HREF="msg00537.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Using HTML for a Mud character generator</A></strong>,
s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Wed 13 May 1998, 14:39 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00539" HREF="msg00539.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Using HTML for a Mud character generator</A></strong>,
Holly Sommer <a href="mailto:hsommer#micro,ti.com">hsommer#micro,ti.com</a>, Wed 13 May 1998, 17:25 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00578" HREF="msg00578.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Using HTML for a Mud character generator</A></strong>,
s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Thu 14 May 1998, 17:16 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00574" HREF="msg00574.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Using HTML for a Mud character generator</A></strong>,
Travis S. Casey <a href="mailto:efindel#io,com">efindel#io,com</a>, Thu 14 May 1998, 13:33 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00680" HREF="msg00680.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Using HTML for a Mud character generator</A></strong>,
Vadim Tkachenko <a href="mailto:vt#freehold,crocodile.org">vt#freehold,crocodile.org</a>, Tue 19 May 1998, 01:40 GMT
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