<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Wired, UO, and Internet Gaming (was Re: OT: --> <!--X-From-R13: "Xbua Pregbtyvb" <nyrkoNvagreargpqf.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 19:04:17 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: E0yXG2g-0002jK-00#mail,kanga.nu --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Wired, UO, and Internet Gaming (was Re: OT:</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00449.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00452.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00352.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00342.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00450">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00450">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00450">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Wired, UO, and Internet Gaming (was Re: OT:</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Wired, UO, and Internet Gaming (was Re: OT: </LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "John Bertoglio" <<A HREF="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com">alexb#internetcds,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 6 May 1998 19:05:18 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: "Petidomo List Agent -- Kanga.Nu version" <<A HREF="mailto:petidomo#kanga,nu">petidomo#kanga,nu</A>></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> From: J C Lawrence <claw#under,engr.sgi.com> To: mud-dev#kanga,nu <mud-dev#kanga,nu> Date: Wednesday, May 06, 1998 4:19 PM >On Sun, 3 May 1998 22:11:04 -0500 (CDT) >Cat <cat#bga,com> wrote: > >> Mike Sellers wrote (and then I hand attributed 'cause my mailer >> doesn't): > >>> I just skimmed Raph's comments on this. I agree with him >>> wholeheartedly. Amy Jo's article basically got eviscerated by the >>> editors at Wired. > >> That is a shame. Is the text of Amy's original version available >> anywhere, or would I have to ask her for it? > >It would seem not. However I have invited her to the list, but she >appears buried in her book for now. Perhaps when that's done she >might be more forthcoming. > >> I was a bit surprised to read the bit where it was mentioned that >> cannibalism was possible in the game. Well I suppose it's one more >> thing that adds to the roleplaying possibilities for the evil >> characters. :X) > >Cannibalism is necessarily "evil"? Mostly, just dangerous to your health which is why it is practiced so rarely and then usually only in ritual situations. > >Aside: I've recently coined the term "functional roleplaying" for the >sort of gaming, which while GoP motivated is heavily tailored to the >in-game reality. There's no thee's and thou's, or even pretension of >IC/OOC seperation, but an awful lot of attention is spent by the >player in working his character thru the game realities rules as it >controls and affects his character. An excellent term. Learning what "works" in a game universe is essentially roleplaying. The role might not fit into a traditional mold, but it is a role none the less. >Examples would enclude >negotiation of reputation and influence systems, votes, political >systems, clans and guilds and other similar structures, etc. >Appearance is not the key. Function is. What grows out of these interactions is the kind of roleplaying that many people on this list advocate. Give a world enough time and you will see roleplaying emerge as kind of a "last frontier". > >Ling: Might be a good tag to add to the FAQ. While you are at it, definitions of the following would help the terminally clueless, like myself: -- Honourary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... I tried searching the archvies but you can imagine what happened. > >-- >J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net >(Contractor) Internet: coder#ibm,net >---------(*) Internet: claw#under,engr.sgi.com >...Honourary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... > >-- >MUD-Dev: Advancing an unrealised future. John Bertoglio > -- MUD-Dev: Advancing an unrealised future. </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00449.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Supporting articles found for UOL play style</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00452.html">[MUD-Dev] quickie CGDC report</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00352.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wired, UO, and Internet Gaming (was Re: OT:</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00342.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wired, UO, and Internet Gaming (was Re: OT: Birth announcement )</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00450"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00450"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: Motivations for Creating Mud-Like Worlds and Servers</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00390" HREF="msg00390.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Motivations for Creating Mud-Like Worlds and Servers</A></strong>, Holly Sommer <a href="mailto:hsommer#micro,ti.com">hsommer#micro,ti.com</a>, Tue 05 May 1998, 07:53 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00365" HREF="msg00365.html">[MUD-Dev] Asheron's Call Interview with Toby Ragaini, Lead Designer, and Jon Grande, Product Planner.</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 04 May 1998, 13:01 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00364" HREF="msg00364.html">[MUD-Dev] Preview of Asheron's Call</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 04 May 1998, 12:56 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00352" HREF="msg00352.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wired, UO, and Internet Gaming (was Re: OT:</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Mon 04 May 1998, 07:47 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00450" HREF="msg00450.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wired, UO, and Internet Gaming (was Re: OT:</A></strong>, John Bertoglio <a href="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com">alexb#internetcds,com</a>, Thu 07 May 1998, 02:04 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00342" HREF="msg00342.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Wired, UO, and Internet Gaming (was Re: OT: Birth announcement )</A></strong>, John Bertoglio <a href="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com">alexb#internetcds,com</a>, Sun 03 May 1998, 13:39 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00340" HREF="msg00340.html">[MUD-Dev] LIST: The "MUD-DEV" MUD Development mailing list</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#greek,kanga.nu">claw#greek,kanga.nu</a>, Sun 03 May 1998, 12:56 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00330" HREF="msg00330.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Some thoughts on languages and users - was: Ma</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sat 02 May 1998, 17:17 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00370" HREF="msg00370.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Some thoughts on languages and users - was: Ma</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Mon 04 May 1998, 13:34 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>