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<LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: In game bulletin boards vs. Web based.</LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:ubmitche#mcs,drexel.edu">ubmitche#mcs,drexel.edu</A> (Bruce Mitchener)</LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:48:24 +0000 (GMT)</LI>
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Ellis Pomales writes:
> I would like to know what your opinions are on bulletin board systems
> within Muds. My belief is that a web based bulletin board systems is
> alot easier to develop, fancier and more reliable than an online one. Is
> this true? Do you agree?
Why not place a web interface on the same system as the online boards?
In ColdCore, we have a web server and over the course of a month or so, I
had at one point (not as part of ColdCore), added a web interface to the
standard mailsystem and added several features with permissions groups
and so on. I didn't backport those additions into the standard code, but
it wouldn't have been difficult to reintegrate that into ColdCore itself
(ColdCore btw is the database for Genesis, www.cold.org).
> In that vain should help be web based? With minimal help in-game? Or do
> you think that help is so critical that it should be on the mud?
Again to pull an example from ColdCore, we use a markup language for all
of our help nodes. This markup language is compiled into an internal
format and can be run through various processor objects. For online
usage, it is often output in plain text, although converters exist to add
some ANSI codes (a bit broken at points), and for Pueblo (client from
Chaco, now defunct), or HTML output. The web server can render a help
node into HTML and return it via the browser, including converting links
in the help node into clickable links in the browser. For an example,
check out <url:<A HREF="http://ice.cold.org/bin/help">http://ice.cold.org/bin/help</A>>. The content seen there is
the same data as when you log in to the mud and type @help. Note that the
links that show up in HTML are navigable while logged in through the
plain text format, the Pueblo format and a format that has a plugin for
use with TkMOO (I think someone wrote support for it for mud.el also, but
I haven't got a copy of it).
Why maintain a separation when you can have both interfaces to the same
system? For non-mud examples, look at the wide variety of interfaces
that exist for gnats, the GNU bug tracking system. There are command
line utilities, a Tk based tool, a web interface and others.
Having the content for the help accessible is invaluable while
programming, but the ability to provide a web reference without having to
edit 2 copies of it saves a lot of time and versioning problems.
- Bruce
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01002" HREF="msg01002.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PC 99 standard Re: In game bulletin boards vs. Web based.</A></strong>,
Jo Dillon <a href="mailto:emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk">emily#thelonious,new.ox.ac.uk</a>, Fri 12 Jun 1998, 18:28 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01003" HREF="msg01003.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PC 99 standard Re: In game bulletin boards vs. Web based.</A></strong>,
Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Fri 12 Jun 1998, 20:29 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01007" HREF="msg01007.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PC 99 standard Re: In game bulletin boards vs. Web based.</A></strong>,
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Fri 12 Jun 1998, 20:57 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00918" HREF="msg00918.html">[MUD-Dev] In game bulletin boards vs. Web based.</A></strong>,
Elis Pomales <a href="mailto:pomales#caip,rutgers.edu">pomales#caip,rutgers.edu</a>, Tue 09 Jun 1998, 20:00 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00923" HREF="msg00923.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: In game bulletin boards vs. Web based.</A></strong>,
Bruce Mitchener <a href="mailto:ubmitche#mcs,drexel.edu">ubmitche#mcs,drexel.edu</a>, Tue 09 Jun 1998, 21:52 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00940" HREF="msg00940.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: In game bulletin boards vs. Web based.</A></strong>,
Robert Woods <a href="mailto:rwoods#nebula,honors.unr.edu">rwoods#nebula,honors.unr.edu</a>, Wed 10 Jun 1998, 19:32 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00942" HREF="msg00942.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: In game bulletin boards vs. Web based.</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00944" HREF="msg00944.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: In game bulletin boards vs. Web based.</A></strong>,
Holly Sommer <a href="mailto:hsommer#micro,ti.com">hsommer#micro,ti.com</a>, Wed 10 Jun 1998, 20:49 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00949" HREF="msg00949.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: In game bulletin boards vs. Web based.</A></strong>,
Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Wed 10 Jun 1998, 23:14 GMT
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