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<LI><em>From</em>: "John Bertoglio" <<A HREF="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com">alexb#internetcds,com</A>></LI>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Katrina McClelan <kitkat#the486,bradley.edu>
To: mud-dev#kanga,nu <mud-dev#kanga,nu>
Date: Wednesday, April 29, 1998 6:49 PM
Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: PK's: A solution?
>
>> So why is this? I would suggest there are two reasons not generally
noted:
>>
>> (1) PK's talk. It is bad enough to be killed by Plate Deewd without
having
>> to endure a string of misspelled profanity and insults.
>> (2) You hold PC's to a higher standard of behavior than monsters, even
if
>> this is mostly a series unconsious reactions. These are other people,
after
>> all. Who *should know better*.
>>
>
>(3) Player Kill is often motivated by non-game issues. MK is never for
>anything but game issues (unless manipulated in which case it becomes PK).
>(4) Monsters don't get excessive and kill repeatedly just for kicks.
I would tend to disagree having watched consumer muds like UO. I see PK as
just an extension of this "what do we kill next" mode which is rampant on
muds.
>(5) Monsters (at least in most MUDS, which in terms of survey results
>makes this valid) do not track a player from the other side of the mud
>unprovoked. (I've often pondered letting mobs just decide to "go kill
>Bubba for kicks").
>
>[snip methods]
>
>Method 4 could be reincarnate normally. When they die in game if they're
>deemed unworthy to come back as human(oid) races, they come back as a
>slime. Provided you don't have Heroes such that a certain level implies
>some degree of invulnerability, a PKer will have a short life expectancy.
>
You've got it! I think a few successful PK's can make a world very
exciting. You don't have to look very far in American (and other rowdy
places like Australia) to find a celebration of successful criminals. On
the other hand, the penalty for failure should be balanced by the rewards,
so I would go easy on PK's until their aura became so discolored that
needed to be extracted for a while and work their way back into the world.
>-Kat
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<LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: PK's: A solution?</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00252" HREF="msg00252.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PK's: A solution?</A></strong>,
Katrina McClelan <a href="mailto:kitkat#the486,bradley.edu">kitkat#the486,bradley.edu</a>, Thu 30 Apr 1998, 01:43 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00268" HREF="msg00268.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PK's: A solution?</A></strong>,
Holly Sommer <a href="mailto:hsommer#micro,ti.com">hsommer#micro,ti.com</a>, Thu 30 Apr 1998, 16:58 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00363" HREF="msg00363.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PK's: A solution?</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 04 May 1998, 12:33 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00284" HREF="msg00284.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PK's: A solution?</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 30 Apr 1998, 21:52 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00261" HREF="msg00261.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PK's: A solution?</A></strong>,
John Bertoglio <a href="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com">alexb#internetcds,com</a>, Thu 30 Apr 1998, 05:17 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00294" HREF="msg00294.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PK's: A solution?</A></strong>,
John Bertoglio <a href="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com">alexb#internetcds,com</a>, Fri 01 May 1998, 04:24 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00789" HREF="msg00789.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Group mechanics/Leadership [was: Room descriptions]</A></strong>,
John Bertoglio <a href="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com">alexb#internetcds,com</a>, Tue 28 Apr 1998, 04:55 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00783" HREF="msg00783.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: mud-dev#null,net is now decommissioned.</A></strong>,
John Bertoglio <a href="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com">alexb#internetcds,com</a>, Tue 28 Apr 1998, 02:21 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00281" HREF="msg00281.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META: mud-dev#null,net is now decommissioned.</A></strong>,
J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Thu 30 Apr 1998, 21:10 GMT
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