<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: FW: (Fwd) Bouncing mail --> <!--X-From-R13: f001tzhNabin.jevtug.rqh --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 10:51:25 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.PMDF.3.95.980506134412.545305515A-100000#nova,wright.edu --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199805050206.TAA01762#under,engr.sgi.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: FW: (Fwd) Bouncing mail</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00421.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00424.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00381.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00510.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00423">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00423">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00423">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: FW: (Fwd) Bouncing mail</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: FW: (Fwd) Bouncing mail</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 06 May 1998 13:50:00 -0400 (EDT)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: "Petidomo List Agent -- Kanga.Nu version" <<A HREF="mailto:petidomo#kanga,nu">petidomo#kanga,nu</A>></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Mon, 4 May 1998, J C Lawrence wrote: [...] > On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Koster, Raph wrote: > > [J C Lawrence:] > > <<...personal details deleted here...>> > > > I have begun to fear however that the list is also functioning to > > dissuade as much advancement in the field as it is fostering it, by > > burying its members in endless mental masturbation without ever having > > them actually go out and produce that next great server/game/idea etc. 'endless mental masturbation'? heh... interesting way of putting it. I have noticed that I've spent far too much time thinking and writing about it and not enough working on my project, so, come june 14th, I will begin serious effort to *DO SOMETHING* :) I will note that since I have joined, I have completley scrapped my original project, and started over from scratch, and have, in fact, made some progress. I think the big thing is that we need to set a date for when _something_ has to be done... and right now I am aiming for end of calendar year 1998. We'll see if it pans out that way... :) > Ah, the peril of the ivory tower. :) I doubt it is dissuading it, so much > as it is simply reflecting what woul dhave happened anyway. So you've got > a bunch of "great plan" people who at least are talking about their great > plan. I don't know that any higher proportion of them would actually be > putting it into practice if they DIDN'T have the list... do you? My > impression has always been that theoreticians, well, theorize, and those > who do, tend to just go do, rather than talk much about it. :) And then > there's the few (as we do have some on the list) who did first, and > conduct their endless post-mortems, like me. ;) I think I might be even worse off if I hadn't joined up. All this talk has gotten me good and tired of it, and I'm more than ready to just do it (to borrow from Nike). > > We keep talking, and not one of us (notable minor exception of Chris > > Gray) has yet to actually *produce* anything that has been released > > since they joined the list. heh... as I said.. lets wait until dec 1998 / jan 1999 and see if I can't add my name to that list. I just need to get this pesky graduation thing out of the way first... and then jobs and then moving off campus... and then... (blarg) -Greg -- MUD-Dev: Advancing an unrealised future. </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00510" HREF="msg00510.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: FW: (Fwd) Bouncing mail</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> J C Lawrence <claw#under,engr.sgi.com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00381" HREF="msg00381.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: FW: (Fwd) Bouncing mail</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> J C Lawrence <claw#under,engr.sgi.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00421.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PK and my "Mobless MUD" idea</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00424.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: PK and my "Mobless MUD" idea</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00381.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: FW: (Fwd) Bouncing mail</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00510.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: FW: (Fwd) Bouncing mail</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00423"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00423"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00392" HREF="msg00392.html">[MUD-Dev] RE: META -- membership</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Tue 05 May 1998, 11:27 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00393" HREF="msg00393.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: META -- membership</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 05 May 1998, 12:29 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00391" HREF="msg00391.html">[MUD-Dev] META -- membership</A></strong>, Jay Sax <a href="mailto:cimri1#gte,net">cimri1#gte,net</a>, Tue 05 May 1998, 10:59 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00381" HREF="msg00381.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: FW: (Fwd) Bouncing mail</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 04 May 1998, 19:38 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00423" HREF="msg00423.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: FW: (Fwd) Bouncing mail</A></strong>, s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Wed 06 May 1998, 17:51 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00510" HREF="msg00510.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: FW: (Fwd) Bouncing mail</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 12 May 1998, 01:07 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00520" HREF="msg00520.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: FW: (Fwd) Bouncing mail</A></strong>, s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Tue 12 May 1998, 17:28 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00596" HREF="msg00596.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: FW: (Fwd) Bouncing mail</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Fri 15 May 1998, 01:30 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00384" HREF="msg00384.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: FW: (Fwd) Bouncing mail</A></strong>, John Bertoglio <a href="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com">alexb#internetcds,com</a>, Mon 04 May 1998, 23:23 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>