<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: darkness/visibility --> <!--X-From-R13: Quevf Uenl <ptNnzv-pt.UenlEntr.Sqzbagba.OP.QO> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:14:59 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199806250313.VAA05322@ami-cg.GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: darkness/visibility</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01196.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01198.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01186.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00957.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01197">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01197">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01197">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: darkness/visibility</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: darkness/visibility</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Chris Gray <<A HREF="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:13:08 -0600</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> [Travis S. Casey:] >That's one problem. However, there is another, more subtle reason to "get >more complex" -- it helps to separate player knowledge from character >knowledge. > >The *player* may know that there's an object in that dark room, from >previous play with another character. However, the *character* may not >know that, never having been in that room before. In that case, you may >not wish to allow the player to simply go ahead and have the character do >something with that object. I recall some discussions on this before, but don't recall any conclusions. I'll bow out here by saying I don't find trying to separate the character's knowledge from the player's knowledge worth the vast effort, and the cooperation needed from the player. Personal opinion only, of course - I'm not heavily into roleplay. -- Chris Gray cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01196.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Suggested theme, was Re: WIRED: Kilers have more fun</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01198.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Multi-Server games</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01186.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: darkness/visibility</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00957.html">[MUD-Dev] darkness/visibility</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01197"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01197"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>[MUD-Dev] Re: darkness/visibility</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="01035" HREF="msg01035.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: darkness/visibility</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sun 14 Jun 1998, 21:11 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01036" HREF="msg01036.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: darkness/visibility</A></strong>, Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#cyberhighway,net">greear#cyberhighway,net</a>, Sun 14 Jun 1998, 21:35 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01057" HREF="msg01057.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: darkness/visibility</A></strong>, Katrina McClelan <a href="mailto:kitkat#the486,bradley.edu">kitkat#the486,bradley.edu</a>, Mon 15 Jun 1998, 23:34 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01186" HREF="msg01186.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: darkness/visibility</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Wed 24 Jun 1998, 03:47 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01197" HREF="msg01197.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: darkness/visibility</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Thu 25 Jun 1998, 03:14 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00957" HREF="msg00957.html">[MUD-Dev] darkness/visibility</A></strong>, Oliver Jowett <a href="mailto:oliver#jowett,manawatu.planet.co.nz">oliver#jowett,manawatu.planet.co.nz</a>, Thu 11 Jun 1998, 03:03 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01013" HREF="msg01013.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: darkness/visibility</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:adam#angel,com">adam#angel,com</a>, Sat 13 Jun 1998, 00:50 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01016" HREF="msg01016.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: darkness/visibility</A></strong>, oliver <a href="mailto:oliver#jowett,manawatu.planet.co.nz">oliver#jowett,manawatu.planet.co.nz</a>, Sat 13 Jun 1998, 05:02 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01025" HREF="msg01025.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: darkness/visibility</A></strong>, Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#nospam,dial.pipex.com">KaVir#nospam,dial.pipex.com</a>, Sun 14 Jun 1998, 10:41 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>