<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases: was Re: skill system --> <!--X-From-R13: "Xbua Pregbtyvb" <nyrkoNvagreargpqf.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:53:02 -0700 --> <!--X-Message-Id: E0yl4mr-0005uL-00#mail,kanga.nu --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases: was Re: skill system</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01018.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01020.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01048.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01094.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01019">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01019">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01019">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>[MUD-Dev] Re: Databases: was Re: skill system</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: [MUD-Dev] Re: Databases: was Re: skill system</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "John Bertoglio" <<A HREF="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com">alexb#internetcds,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 21:51:31 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#kanga,nu">mud-dev#kanga,nu</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> From: Mike Sellers <mike#bignetwork,com> Date: Thursday, June 11, 1998 1:46 PM >My impression is that --for some really unaccountable reason-- mud >developers have pretty much ignored the benefit of using existing databases >and their tools. A lot of the hard problems in mudding (e.g. dragon's >dinner) have been resolved a long time ago in the button-down db world. >Any good DB is going to be worthwhile for anything larger than the smallest >muds. Oracle is overkill unless you're talking about thousands of >concurrent players. An SQL-accessible DB might well be useful, but at the >very least an external, free-standing, well-formed database is going to >help a lot with changing informational needs over time. We use Visual FoxPro as the engine for our system. It has a full (if slightly idiosyncratic) SQL, objects and all the good stuff you remember from dBase II. While it supports a SQL server back end (MS is promoting VFP as a middleware developmement tool), its native speed is higher unless you reach the point where distributed processing is required. There are a lot of advantages for the developer since the code is written at such a high level that even a programmer with modest skills (like me) can be very productive. >Mike Sellers Chief Creative Officer The Big Network >mike#bignetwork,com ><<A HREF="http://www.bignetwork.com/">http://www.bignetwork.com/</A>><A HREF="http://www.bignetwork.com">http://www.bignetwork.com</A> > Fun Is Good John Bertoglio -- MUD-Dev: Advancing an unrealised future. </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01018.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Mud websites</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01020.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Off topic! But please help</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01048.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: OT: Announcement</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01094.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Databases: was Re: skill system</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01019"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01019"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01059" HREF="msg01059.html">[MUD-Dev] The great crusade....</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Tue 16 Jun 1998, 01:18 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01049" HREF="msg01049.html">[MUD-Dev] (fwd) Temporality and user actions in MUDs</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Mon 15 Jun 1998, 18:26 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01047" HREF="msg01047.html">[MUD-Dev] OT: Announcement</A></strong>, s001gmu <a href="mailto:s001gmu#nova,wright.edu">s001gmu#nova,wright.edu</a>, Mon 15 Jun 1998, 16:57 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01048" HREF="msg01048.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: OT: Announcement</A></strong>, Nathan F Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Mon 15 Jun 1998, 18:17 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01019" HREF="msg01019.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Databases: was Re: skill system</A></strong>, John Bertoglio <a href="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com">alexb#internetcds,com</a>, Sun 14 Jun 1998, 04:53 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="01094" HREF="msg01094.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Databases: was Re: skill system</A></strong>, John Bertoglio <a href="mailto:alexb#internetcds,com">alexb#internetcds,com</a>, Wed 17 Jun 1998, 02:49 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01191" HREF="msg01191.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Databases: was Re: skill system</A></strong>, ##Make Nylander <a href="mailto:thenewt#use,usit.net">thenewt#use,usit.net</a>, Wed 24 Jun 1998, 13:31 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01192" HREF="msg01192.html">[MUD-Dev] Re: Databases: was Re: skill system</A></strong>, jacob langthorn <a href="mailto:jlangthorn#towertechinc,com">jlangthorn#towertechinc,com</a>, Wed 24 Jun 1998, 14:21 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01014" HREF="msg01014.html">[MUD-Dev] META: The web is a live again!</A></strong>, J C Lawrence <a href="mailto:claw#under,engr.sgi.com">claw#under,engr.sgi.com</a>, Sat 13 Jun 1998, 02:36 GMT </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>